Apr 19 2008

Obama’s Crash

Published by at 6:02 pm under 2008 Elections,All General Discussions

All those who expected Obama to crash instantly in the polls don’t understand polls and don’t understand this time in the process. This far out from the election the people are not tuned in (only us political addicts), so it takes time for events to ripple through. I saw tons of fantasy headlines about how Obama was not affected by his “bitter” comments and the debate. Well, the latest Gallup Daily Tracking Poll shows a much different reality:

That is some pretty serious damage coming right before the next round of primaries and caucuses Tuesday. I was expecting it but wanted to see a few days of the trend before I made a firm statement. Interestingly there is not effect on the McCain head to heads yet. But there probably will be. As Obama and Clinton tear each other up McCain will rise above it all and, with his conciliatory and respectful tone, start breaking away from the dems soon. And the left can only watch has it all unravels on them.

25 responses so far

25 Responses to “Obama’s Crash”

  1. Terrye says:

    McCain’s average is within a point of Obama, that is neck and neck. Rasmussen’s still had McCain ahead last time I checked.

  2. kathie says:

    I actually don’t want Obama to crash quite yet. I want MSM to look really stupid for supporting such a left wing guy.

  3. ordi says:

    Kathie

    IMHO – I think they already look really stupid for supporting him.

  4. kathie says:

    Yes they look stupid to you and me, but MSM hasn’t quite caught on yet. They are still in the tank. I’m wondering what they will have to know to say, this guy is not fit to be President.

  5. WWS says:

    The Ayres question is leading to a lot more general election headaches for Obama – because Obama’s closest work with Ayres was on the board of the Joyce Foundation in Chicago. And that brings up the question of what the Joyce Foundation was doing all those years.

    Well, among other things, while Obama was a Foundation Director with Ayres, it gave $2.7 million to groups who directly advocate strict gun control.

    “The foundation funded legal scholarship advancing the theory that the Second Amendment does not protect individual gun owners’ rights, as well as two groups that advocated handgun bans. And it paid to support a book called “Every Handgun Is Aimed at You: The Case for Banning Handguns.”

    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=66551746-3048-5C12-00921D2BE9528C54

    So this is the kind of “Change” he is looking to bring to America? Thanks to the debate, this kind of information is starting to see the light of day.

  6. ordi says:

    Kathie

    I was listening to Hugh Hewitt on Thus (2nd hour)- he had Bill Kristol on who was saying Dems in Washington he has talked with are Beginning to realize that BHO is NOT ready for Primetime or to be POTUS but they are afraid to destroy the party by putting Hillary as the nominee. He says they are realizing that they will keep the house and senate and lose the WH.

    Listen here if you want.

    http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/Show.aspx?RadioShowID=5

  7. Terrye says:

    The good old days of the Viet Nam might have been golden for the left, but most of America does not want to go there. Again.

  8. VinceP1974 says:

    Operation Chaos!

    I think the best thing from the ABC Debate is when he got caught on video saying that even if the Capital Gains Tax hike doestn’ increase revenue (and it wont), he’s going to raise it anyway to be fair.

    Does that make sense to any living person? This guy is such a gas bag.. and he’s awful on-the-fly talker.

    John McCain doesn’t have to say anything this campaign all he needs to do just show clips of Obama talking.

    This is my favorite Obama lie of the week:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WynLgJFBxSs

    I’m not sure where I found this at.. I hope it’s not this blog.. maybe it was Hot Air. Sorry if it was posted here before.

  9. 75 says:

    Kathie, I’ve of the opinion that the media isn’t stupid but intentionally anti-Amrican. I believe they don’t want a candidate fit for the presidency. They want the entire concept of representative democracy wiped out and replaced with universal socialism. Enter Obama.

  10. breschau says:

    Yup – me again, deciding to bring some increase to AJ’s hits and comments.

    Honestly, this depends on which poll you decide to pay attention to. For example, this Newsweek poll from the 18th shows Obama up by 19 points:

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/132721?from=rss

    And besides, the Obama/Clinton issue will become moot as soon as this becomes news on Monday:

    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15266.html

    And can we all agree that taking a poll *every single freaking* day is proving to be more and more meaningless? It’s a different group of people each time, and the statistical variance keeps getting ignored in favor of the absolute numbers. (Hint: a 45-44 advantage with a +/- factor of 5 is statistically the same as a 50-39 advantage with a +/- factor of 5.)

  11. 75 says:

    The left wing media masquerades polling data as their news. That’s why we get one every day. They could easily just put a commentator on every night with their opinion but that would, apparently, be showing their bias too easily so they fudge a poll to get the story they want to run. Think of polling as the curtain and the spoon fed results as the wizard.

  12. Whippet1 says:

    Breschy,

    How are you?

    I agree with 75 on this one. The polls are manufactured to suit the agenda of the media creating a story. The polls are all meaningless and even more so when they don’t let you see the internals. And when they do it can be pretty hysterical! And obvious in what the media is attempting to do.

  13. breschau says:

    Hey Whippet:

    Glad to see you’re up this late!

    I’m doing well. Occasionally I balance that statement with: “My 5 year is epileptic. My 3 year is autistic. How are you?”

    However, I tend to take some disagreement with the automatic “left-wing media” argument, since I’ve seen so little of it recently. In fact, I think the mainstream political media overwhelming favors the right side of the political argument recently.

    As a simple measurement:

    How many MSM stories have there been about the “bitter” comment?

    How many have actually delved into what it means, and how many have referenced Bill Clinton’s remark back in 1998: “They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them.”

    How many MSM stories have there been about McCain’s economic plan, and how it can actually be paid for?

  14. breschau says:

    Please replace “5 year” with “5 year old”, and “3 year” with “3 year old” in that last comment. Thanks.

  15. Whippet1 says:

    Breschy,

    You are forgetting one unimportant thing in the current media agenda. McCain is already the nominee…therefore there is nothing the media can sway…for now. But the media is all agog over Obama and Hillary is on the outs. Now, all of a sudden, the criticisms that Republicans screamed about for years and were accused of being part of some “right-wing conspiracy” are all coming back to haunt Hillary. Only the right isn’t telling the story…the very media that failed to tell the story during and leading up to the Clinton years is telling that story. Where were they all those years ago?

    And I think the only reason Obama had a tough time in the debates the other night (other than he continually has problems when he isn’t reading from a script) is because Stephanopolous was on that panel. He was in the Clinton Admin. and he favors Hillary. But bias is still bias…but the agenda is still the same. The media wants a liberal dem in office and they like Obama the best…

    OK, having a 3 year old and a 5 year old is tough enough…but is one really epileptic and one autustic?

  16. Whippet1 says:

    oops…unimportant should have been important!

  17. Whippet1 says:

    Very interesting article on the artist who did the Obama poster. What a dangerous man Obama appears to be. Unfortunately for many people he seems to be something other than what he really is:

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/04/hello-mr.html

  18. WWS says:

    Breschau, I don’t think the news about Hillary’s scorn for Move-on will change anything. They (along with the Kos Kids) already hate her and will do anything to derail her. The fact that she now realizes that and is willing to say so openly doesn’t make it any worse; however, it does burn the last bridge and guarantee that even if she is the nominee, they won’t come back to her in the general election.

  19. VinceP1974 says:

    breschau , at that Carpet bagger blog link you provided, I made this comment:

    I think the Democrats all owe an apology to Republicans.

    The Move-On folks owe Republicans an apology because they have confirmed ,all the things that Republicans have noticed about the Clintons since 1992 are true.

    The Clinton folks owe Republicans an apology because they have confirmed all the things that Republicans have noticed about the Move-On folks since 1998 are true.

  20. WWS says:

    Here’s a report today – by a DEM reporter – that is going to have the Obamanation mightily upset:

    http://www.slate.com//id/2189485

    “DOWNINGTON, Pa.— At the next train stop, I’m going to stand behind Senator Obama when he speaks. When he’s decrying the trivial distractions in politics, I think he may be crossing his fingers behind his back.

    As the Senator’s campaign train wound from one speech where he denounced tit-for-tat politics to the next speech where he denounced tit-for-tat politics, his campaign hosted a conference call to engage in the practice the candidate was busy denouncing. I suppose it would have been an even greater act of chutzpah for the Obama campaign to host the conference call while Sen. Obama was denouncing that kind of behavior, but not much more of one. “