Aug 22 2008

The Biden Disaster

Published by at 11:38 pm under 2008 Elections,All General Discussions

Update: And in case anyone missed it  Biden voted for the Iraq war and supported funding the troops while Obama supported retreat at any cost:

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden on Tuesday accused his rivals for the 2008 nomination who are fellow U.S. senators of voting against the safety of troops deployed in Iraq.

“As long as there are troops who are in a position where, if we don’t fund them they are going to be hurt, I’m not going to cut off funding,” Biden said during a meeting with Des Moines Register editors and reporters “That’s what the other candidates said too, but they changed their mind.” 


“I find it absolutely unconscionable that I would delay, to make a point, a week to two to a month, the construction of these vehicles,” Biden added.

Obama said supporting the bill would have been consenting to President Bush’s conduct of the war.

“Senator Obama believes that we cannot simply give President Bush another blank check, and that we must negotiate a better plan to fund our troops, signal to the Iraqis that it is time for them to act, and begin to bring our brave servicemen and women home safely and responsibly,” Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor said.

Think McCain can use this in a debate with Obama?  This is the weekend the Democrats lost the 2008 Presidential Election.  This is going to be one long and painful hangover from the Obama fantasy dream.

Update: I really liked this summary of the Biden Disaster, my thoughts exactly. Biden was so bad I had come to believe he was a simple head fake. Faked me out!

Update: AP calls the Biden selection a signal Obama lacks confidence:

Analysis: Biden pick shows lack of confidence

Update: Yep, I am out here pushing the for the best VP selection John McCain could ever make – a VP who has run for ‘change’ in Washington DC:

Compare this to the Biden selection and everyone will be wondering why Obama had to run to the dusty-old-white-guy bin in the Senate for a VP>

Update: I had decided the choice would never be Biden after Hannity rattled off about ten derogatory quotes from Biden against Obama. These quotes are all McCain needs to run in ads this fall to kill the Obama-Biden ticket. Ed Morrissey notes the opening salvo is already out:

Honestly, I did not think Obama would be so dumb as to pick someone with an endless list of complaints on the record about him. I was wrong.

Update: I want to address the ridiculous idea Biden can shore up Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience – no way in hell. First off, the VP candidates never debate the Presidential candidates so Obama still has to face McCain one-on-one. Secondly, Obama has a foreign policy staff already feeding him details has fast as he can take them. If it hasn’t sunk in by now, another obnoxious and nagging voice isn’t going to make him any smarter in the coming weeks.

Update: I have to agree with Lawhawk on this selection of Biden for VP:

This has to rank up there as one of the most bizarre roll outs of a vice presidential nominee ever. I can’t ever recall an instance where a Presidential candidate ever decided to announce their choice prior to a convention where it didn’t get prime time positioning.

And it stemmed from the fact that the campaign decided that they were going to announce Obama’s selection via text message instead of the more traditional press conference. When media outlets started getting wind of Obama’s choice, the campaign decided that it had no choice but to run the text message.

At just after 3AM. 3AM!

Where is the magic in picking some old white guy from the Senate who can bring you the state of Delaware? I think Obama was struggling with the decision so much he delayed it way too long and then lost the opportunity. He is not controlling the message or setting the tone. He is letting others do it off the text message alert. He should have been on prime time TV framing the choice, explaining his decisions, assuring America. More here.

This is another typical Ivy League educated techno-idiot (like Al Gore) who think they are grabbing onto the cutting edge of technology when they actually have their hands gripping the wrong edge of the cutting edge knife. To rely on a text message in the dark of night is to lose control of the roll out.

I am reminded that Obama was the first fool to set up a campaign website where is opponents and disappointed fans could post their screeds all day long. Who set’s up a website for the enemies to destroy him through the death of a thousand angry cuts? Obama’s inexperience is showing through loud and clear now. I am expecting him to look a bit tentative and in doubt when we finally see him on the Biden selection. Why else sneak this out at 3 AM in the morning?

– end update

Joe Biden as Obama’s VP?  


After hours staking out Joe Biden’s Delaware home with no sign of the prospective VP candidate, reporters are now witnessing a flurry of activity.

Cars have recently pulled into the driveway — including a police car — and Biden’s daughter, son, and wife are now believed to be inside

And the dull twins are out:

As reported in her Nightly News spot, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, according to sources, were told they’re out of the running.


What’s up with the Biden selection – except we now have the two largest egomaniacs ever to grace the Presidential and Vice Presidential tickets? Joe Biden brings what again? He is an old crotchety senator steeped in foreign policy.  So is McCain.  BFD.

If McCain is smart he will do something bold and go for a “minority” VP like Michael Steele of MD. That would end Obama’s clumsy run as the Messiah – a campaign that now looks like it is right out of the Life of Brian (or The Life of Barry, or whoever).


Brian: I’m not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!
Girl: Only the true Messiah denies His divinity.
Brian: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah!
Followers: He is! He is the Messiah!
Brian: Now, fuck off!
Arthur: How shall we fuck off, O Lord?


The Crowd: The Messiah! The Messiah! Show us the Messiah!
Brian’s mother: The who?
The Crowd: The Messiah!
Brian’s mother: There’s no Messiah in here. There’s a mess all right, but no Messiah. Now go away!

47 responses so far

47 Responses to “The Biden Disaster”

  1. dhunter says:

    The war was the right thing to do in my opinion.
    That said ,at the time, shortly after 9/11, the American people were in a patriotic mood and wanted some retribution, some payback, an example to be set. So, the politicians, being the expert panderers they are were all trying to get to the right of George Bush. The dems actually went to the well of the Senate and upped the anty. Hillary did it, Biden did it, most of the Dems did it. It took a sustained effort by the Dems and the media to undermine the war effort and pin the war on the Republicans alone.
    I don’t think it was any extra intelligence it was typical political pandering and opportunism!
    Term limits would go a long way toward ending this behavior. If 8 years is long enough for a president then 35 years is about 27 to long for a senator. All they are interested in is preserving their jobs.

  2. breschau says:

    “I can hardly wait for all the stories to come out about how much lobbyist money he gets (slightly more that that purist Obama) and how much payola he’s getting from the “business” interests there in Delaware.”

    Ya know, there’s been a lot of ridiculous statements in this thread – but this line takes the friggin’ cake.

    Joe Biden has been in the Senate for 35 years, and he was the least wealthy member of the last Senate, and is most likely at or near the bottom of this Senate.

    I realize that it’s difficult for Republicans to understand this concept, considering all of the examples to the contrary on your side, but it is possible for a Senator to stick around for a long time and NOT be corrupted.

    Considering the background of Obama and Biden, in terms of the economic situation of how they grew up and what their personal wealth is now, I am PRAYING for McCain to choose Romney as his VP. The contrast would be STUNNING. (Not to mention what Biden would do to Romney in the VP debates.)

  3. breschau says:


    “The senate has been called a school for bores. And Biden is well schooled.”


    Hey, you are aware that your candidate is a long-time Senator? Right? Right?


  4. ivehadit says:

    Watched thenews off and on today. One thing struck me: o does not look enthused. The pictures of o and b with their wives hugging each other looked waaaay too orchestrated, had a noticeable lack of enthusiasm.

    Which leads me to conclude along with the otched 3 am announcement that yes, o, is not in charge. He is being told what to do…

    Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$…

  5. Redteam says:

    breschau, check it out, lobbyists?? yeah, lots of people that make 130-160K a year can afford a million dollar plus house. You believe that?

    Ms O shows her happy face when she’s ‘proud’ of America. Once in her life, so far.

  6. breschau says:


    You mean, Biden has accepted money from the primary industries (credit cards, lawyers) in his state? REALLY?

    I am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!

  7. Redteam says:

    So you’re okay with campaign’s being funded by kickbacks? Must be, seems that is how Obama got into politics, U of C hospital vp hires firms at extravagant rates to do work and they donate heavily to Obama’s campaign. Politics as usual. Guess Obama is gonna be named Mr Clean.

    I don’t need to provide a link on that about U of C, it’s all over the internet.