May 02 2008

Whose Credibility Is Shot In The World From The War On Terror?

Published by at 8:08 am under All General Discussions,Bin Laden/GWOT,Iraq

After nearly 7 years of war since 9-11 it is worth sitting back and seeing whose credibility is shot after all the give and take over the years. I want to start by pointing to an article that Ed Morrissey discussed today to highlight this topic. Ed Morrissey notes that ‘credence’ (street ‘cred) for the British forces is wanting since their Basra stratefy attempted the same weak-kneed, pull-back approach championed by so many on the left and the two Democrats running for President. The Brits demonstrated the foolishness of the ‘run-away’ theory in spades for the world to see, and the result was Islamo Fascists taking over the southern part of Iraq and the destruction of the street cred:

Britain will maintain a garrison of 4,000 troops at Basra airport for the forseeable future, whatever the pressures on the armed forces, defence officials said last night. They described the British garrison as being there “for the long term” after talks in London yesterday between General David Petraeus, commander of US forces in Iraq, Des Browne, the defence secretary, and Sir Jock Stirrup, chief of the defence staff.

It was said that the troops were needed to continue their task of training Iraqi forces and also to maintain what officials called “political credence” with the US.

Ed Morrissey notes the changing tide regarding which approach – Bush/Petraeus or Surrendercrat – as proven to be the more credible:

“Political credence”; at one time, people wondered about our credence with the British. British commanders openly criticized the conduct of the war, especially after the start of the surge. Now, however, with both Basra and Helmand province in Afghanistan turning into debacles over the last couple of years, the British have seen their strategies fail in spectacularly embarrassing ways, and suddenly they need to regain political credence with us.

Sometimes certain strategies are best left in movies and not attempted in real life. The fact is many people have lost credibility over the years. The SurrenderMedia which keeps predicting quagmires and second comings of Vietnam has become a joke. To prove their point they have soiled their reputations with false stories and miscalls throughout. Who can forget how they carried the Surrendercrats’ water about how the Surge was a failure before it began? And how about all those declarations on Sadr’s forces in Basra had won the day? Yeah, the only thing for certain with the news media today is whatever they say is at least partially wrong.

The Surrendercrats in Congress have faired even worse. They predicted they could runaway from Iraq and force a surrender to al-Qaeda. They were wrong. They predicted the Surge would fail and then put on a childish spectacle trying to belittle Gen Petraeus (and by extension the men and women fighting in Iraq) when the Surge did start to work. They spent months trying to cut funds for our troops as they claimed they supported them – it was comical. And the only people with lower public support than President Bush is the Dem-led Congress and the news media.

But the other group that lost credibility is the real story. The Muslims Street rose up to fight in this war and – against all the prediction of the SurrenderMedia, the Surrendercrats and the Leftists in the EU – it took up arms against al-Qaeda, who has lost much of its credibility in the Muslim World:

Despite an apparent upsurge of terrorism, including the attack on President Karzai of Afghanistan, a return of suicide bombings in Iraq and a spate of assassinations in Lebanon and North Africa, in the Muslim heartlands al-Qaeda is on the retreat. The call on devout Muslims to purge the Islamic world of its corrupt rulers, that fell on such fertile ground in the Arabian peninsula, is losing its pull. In Saudi Arabia, a police crackdown and the arrest and re-education of scores of extremist preachers have persuaded thousands to renounce their former loyalty to Osama bin Laden. In Iraq, the targeting of civilians by suicide bombers and al-Qaeda’s torture of sectarian enemies has so sickened tribal leaders that most are joining in the fight against foreign extremists. And in North Africa, security forces have recently killed some 20 suspected militants.

The virulent ideology, spawned by anger at Western troops in Saudi Arabia and the perceived corruption of ruling elites, has, according to senior intelligence officers, been dissipated as terrorist groups increasingly become a front for drug smuggling, extortion, crime or ethnic hatred. Frustrated zealots have seen their attempts to rid Muslim societies of Western influence mocked and thwarted. Moderates have spoken out, Governments across the Middle East have woken up to the threat and nowhere has crude Islamism triumphed. Another spectacular atrocity remains a possibility, but the core ideology has less traction across the Muslim world.

Al-Qaeda remains a danger, but there is now a real chance that this backward-looking ideology can be defeated. Global terrorism is still a serious threat and parts of al-Qaeda’s deadly virus may mutate. The West must remain vigilant to confront these mutations wherever they appear.

The story goes on to note al-Qaeda is not completely beaten – yet. But look at the trend lines: It has lost almost all its ground in Iraq at a terrible price, barely holding on by hiding and intimidation. It has been pushed out of Lebanon. It has waned in Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. It has had to retreat to the tribal areas of Pakistan. And it keeps crying for help from the Muslim community which apparently is not coming.

al-Qaeda still has followers. Heck, there are still Nazis around in some dark crevasses here and there. But the tide is turning against al-Qaeda as more and more of Islam sees it as the enemy of Islam and not its future. Soon too the world will realize America is not the enemy, not at fault, not the source of all ills and see us as worthy and strong friends and allies. The far left is screwing up this election cycle big time. They cannot resist bashing everything America does, even when it succeeds and is proven right. Americans can see past the hysteria and the liberal delusions. They are not so easily mesmerized or manipulated by the news media as some think. You cannot have approval ratings in the tank and be seen as a respected source of information.

The world is sorting all this out after the years of fighting and, being the optimists they are, they will see that things are not as dark and dreary as those lusting for political power try to make them out to be. We have a summer and fall to go to the election and al-Qaeda and the Islamo Fascists may not be able to hold out that long. Only time will tell who will stand credible and who will not when the dust settles in a couple of years from now. But many have been shown to be not to be very credible already.

26 responses so far

26 Responses to “Whose Credibility Is Shot In The World From The War On Terror?”

  1. Terrye says:

    The price of oil and gas was going down and then those employment numbers came out and they jumped back up. Sometimes you just can not win for losing.

  2. crosspatch says:

    All it would take is a no-confidence vote to force a new election. We will see what happens. The overall notion that Europe is moving slowly to the right, though, still seems to be the case.

  3. WWS says:

    The results, although still unofficial for a few more hours, appear to be in: London has a Conservative Mayor, “Red Ken” is out of a job, and the Conservatives have swept electons across the country while Labour has suffered the most widespread and humiliating defeat in it’s history.

    Best evidence that Boris Johnson has won – as I said, results are not official yet, but London bookies this afternoon have begun paying off bets on him. (The Brits bet on everything, you know that)

  4. lurker9876 says:

    Let’s hope Malloch will find himself out on the street before long.

    Too bad that they ignore these threats until it impacts them big time. They learn the hard way and so they begin to understand the importance of preserving the survivability of their own country.

    Malloch needs to go. He has done so much damage within United Nations in addition to the oil for food program. i hope he will not find a new job of equal or more influence after this.

  5. VinceP1974 says:

    They don’t have to be there
    Posted April 25th, 2008 by jimb

    An email from an Australian father, “I am an Australian and my son is serving in the Australian army in Iraq. As far as we are concerned there is no place on God’s earth better than Australia and there are no people better than Australians, that was until the past week or so.

    “My son and I just ended a long phone conversation and here are some of his comments:

    ”Before I came over to Iraq I thought the Australian army were pretty hot stuff — was I ever wrong!

    “The Yanks (I hope you don’t mind me using that word) are so professional from the top to the bottom that it is almost embarrassing to be in their company, and to call yourself a soldier.

    “Don’t get me wrong, we are good at what we do but the Yanks are so much better. They are complete at what they do, how they do it and their attitude is awesome.

    “They don’t complain they just get on with the job and they do it right. In a confrontation with the enemy I feel safe knowing the Yanks are nearby — they assist, no questions asked, no glory sought.

    “The Americans would just fight with us and for us because that is their nature, to protect those in need of protection.

    “What gets to me is that the Yanks don’t walk around with a ‘we are better than you attitude’ and they could because they are. They treat us as equals and as brothers in arms.

    “If nothing else, coming here has taught me that the Americans are a truly great nation and a truly great bunch of people.

    “Let’s face it they don’t have to be here, they could stay in America and beat up anyone who threatened them, but they are here because they believe they should be here, and the Iraqis would be screwed if they weren’t here.
    “When I come home, you and I are going to the US, we will buy some bikes and we are going riding.”

    Australian father’s comments to America:

    ”The reason why I am sharing this with you is because I realize that you (as a nation) must get pretty angry with all the criticism you receive by the so-called know it alls are sitting at home — safe.

    “The reality is that they are safe, just as I am, because of America. My son joined the Australian army to protect and to defend, not play games.
    “My reasons for not liking him to join was selfish and self-centered. I know he is in a well-trained army, but now I feel a whole lot better knowing that he is with your sons, daughters, brothers and sisters.

    “Americans, as I finish I say to you, as a foreigner and outsider, a nation is only a collection of its people and its attitude is the attitude of its people, collectively and as individuals.

    “I am really glad you are here on this earth and I respect you as a nation and as people. Stand up and feel proud because you deserve it, there is no one else who will do what America does without question.

    “The next time someone howls you down, take some comfort in the fact that America is defending their rights to act like an idiot. Finally, thank you for looking after my son.”

    Peter Turner, a proud Australian father of a proud Australian army soldier!

    What a wonderful testimony from a wonderful supporter.

    Speaking of support — according the Associated Press on April 14, Iraq’s government moved to restore discipline within the ranks of the security forces, firing more than 1,300 soldiers and policemen who deserted during recent fighting against Shiite militias in Basra.

    These soldiers were dismissed, according to the press release. Let’s put it in veterans’ terms – those cowards ran from defending their own country — leaving the brave Americans to take the bullet.

    We lost 19 and the deserters could care less because they were aware that the Americans and Aussies were present to do the dirty work.

    In the American army, one can get the death sentence if you cut and run during combat.

    The comments by the Australian soldier and his father validate the strength of our all-volunteer forces who are willing and ready to fight for and suffer 4,000-plus deaths to defend a country whose own soldiers will run from battle – ungrateful and unconcerned that we are in their country to help.

    Link Savoie is a U.S. Army retired officer, a Korea/Vietnam veteran, and past state commander of the La. Veterans of Foreign Wars.

  6. WWS says:

    Great find, Vince! Astounding that none of our supposedly “serious” news outlets in this country would ever dare print anything like that.

    And now for something completely different – I just got sent a link to a youtube clip by a relative in Shreveport. “Accelerated Tax Returns” – yes, this is a REAL ad, I know where Linwood Avenue is myself. As for the content – well, you really do have to see it to believe it. Remember, the people who made this are dead serious; it runs on Shreveport local TV spots.

    (I wonder if this can be turned into an Obama ad)