Dec 06 2006

Ahmadinejad Threatens West: Convert Or Else

Published by at 10:40 am under All General Discussions,Iran

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad seems to be signalling Iran is ready to begin it Jim Jones march to martyrdom:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has warned Western leaders to follow the path of God or “vanish from the face of the earth”.

“These oppressive countries are angry with us … a nation that on the other side of the globe has risen up and proved the shallowness of their power,” Ahmadinejad said in a speech in the northern town of Ramsar, the semi-official news agency Mehr reported Wednesday.

“They are angry with our nation. But we tell them ‘so be it and die from this anger’. Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth,” he said.

I have been predicting that Iran and the Islamo Fascists have been preparing to send a signal to the West, and the Democrats in particular, to make sure the US runs away from our goals in Iraq. My fear was this was to be a massive hit on the EU, which would be send a signal to the quivering liberals to bale out now, but not instigate a US retiliatory reaction which would be swift and sure if the US was attacked. I predicted this ‘message’ would be sent before the year’s end to make sure to get the attention of the new Congress.

Now a really scary scenario is that the Litvinenko incident is tied to some nuclear smuggling effort to get material in place for such an attack. Ahmadinejad has been predicting this coming wave for some time, but this round he makes it sound like it is imminent. I do not trust Iran to be rational. Their leaders seem prepared to take the entire nation on a path to mass martyrdom. They want to die a martyr’s death. And Ahmadinejad would go down in history has having enlisted the largest number of martyrs for all time, if such a situation did occur. He is the kind of whack job that would strive for such a dubious honor.

20 responses so far

20 Responses to “Ahmadinejad Threatens West: Convert Or Else”

  1. Lizarde1 says:

    Speaking shortly before senior diplomats from six world powers were scheduled to meet in Paris on Tuesday to discuss sanctions against Iran over its nuclear programme, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned the European Union that any punitive measure would be considered an act of hostility by Tehran. “I am telling you in plain language that from now on, if you try, whether in your propaganda or at international organisations, to take steps against the rights of the Iranian nation, the Iranian nation will consider it an act of hostility,” Ahmadinejad said.

  2. Carol_Herman says:

    Wouldn’t be the first time. Remember the truck with 90-cases of radioactive material? It left Britain without a problem Drove through france, and no problem, either. It was heading to Iran. But when it reached Bulgaria, the Geiger Counters went off. And, the truck was stopped. WITH SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION STILL IN PLACE.

    In other words?

    There’s some brilliant stuff going on, now. UNSEEN. Where there are KNOWN TERRORISTS “pushing around” nuclear dirt. But in two cases, now, there’s been “interception.”

    The Bulgarians stopping the 90-cases.

    And, here? The bad guys dead. And, dying, ahead. Cancer threats, like a sword, dance over their heads.

    And, there are NO FINGERPRINTS!

    Just a few holes blown into the bad guys “rings.”

    Compliments to the chef. Whomever he is.

    And, the nut in a dinner jacket? I know he’s following hitler’s propaganda program. BUT NOT THE MILITARY ONE.

    You see?

    Hitler had a plan to enslave the world. It had more details on it than just “religious belief that he was right.” (That moniker goes to both the verbal-gerbil. And, Bush 2.)

    Screaming, alone, isn’t going to be enough to change the world, here.

    If anything? It might be the non-productive part of hitler’s yearnings.

    And, the reason Rommel was in Afrika, circa WW2? Hitler’s plan was to drive down, through Iraq, into Egypt. And, beyond. (Yes, Bernard Law Montgomery, finally won one. At Al-Alamein. What’s not known are the sacrifices made by the Jews, living under British controlled Palestine. But, I’ll mention one: General Moshe Dayan’s EYE. He lost it in Iraq. In 1943. Working a back line in Britain’s defense.)

    You’d be right to point out that the Brit’s NEVER SAID “THANK YOU.”

    I mention this because of the harms that have befallen England. She’s not viewed well in any of her “former” colonies. (Except? Perhaps, our own.) But I don’t think this “george” goof up is gonna put any polish on that “old” Anglo-Saxon “get-together.” The one FDR wanted absolutely NO PART OF!

    If there was a “dead pool” going, I’d put up a bet that Ahma-damma-ding-dong dies on the job. And, not of old age.

    Again. That’s just me.

    There are lots of ways to slice and dice the anti-Semitic BIRD BRAINS. But one rule? I love this one. It came out early in America’s 1776 Revolution. DO. NOT. SHOOT. UNTIL. YOU. SEE. THE. WHITE’S. OF. THEIR. EYES.

    You’d be surprised all the wonderful resources currently holding their fire.

  3. TomAnon says:

    There is a third option to the “convert or die” option Islam gives infidels. You can live peacefully with your own religion under Sharia so long as you agree to exorbinant taxes and Sharia. That one is not so well publized.

  4. crosspatch says:

    The guy is a dangerous megalomaniac. Cooler heads are needed in Tehran. Maybe he should worry less about building nuclear bombs, rebuilding Hezbollah bunkers and arming al-Sadr and worry more about paving his roads, repairing his aircraft, and providing jobs for his own people.

    Iran’s economy is falling apart, the money is leaving the country and Iran’s main export at this time besides oil is prostitutes as the women scramble for some employment outside of the country with that often being the only available option.

    Tehran, Iran, Nov. 12 – Capital flight in Iran over the past fortnight reached its highest recorded level since the 1979 Islamic revolution, prompting financial advisors to the hard-line government of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to call for a temporary suspension of the Tehran Stock Exchange (TSE), according to market investors.

    The market flight took a dramatic turn for the worse after Ahmadinejad made a speech in Tehran calling for the destruction of Israel and threatening Iran’s Muslim neighbours that developed ties with the Jewish state, an investor close to the government, who wished to remain anonymous, said.

    The hard-line president’s remarks were condemned by the international community, and Tehran received a reprimand by the United Nations Security Council.

    The capital flight began in earnest in June, after the election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as the new president. Ahmadinejad’s record as a radical Islamist and a former Revolutionary Guards commander, and his reputed remark that “stock exchange speculation is forbidden in Islam” sent jitters through the country’s markets. Nervous investors have been transferring their capital to safe havens such as Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. In the past four months, the Tehran Stock Exchange has lost more than 20 percent of its value.


  5. crosspatch says:

    Another example of Iran ignoring the leaves in their own yard:

    Yet Iran has a surprising weakness: Its oil and gas industry, the lifeblood of its economy, is showing serious signs of distress. As domestic energy consumption skyrockets, Iran is struggling to produce enough oil and gas for export. Unless Tehran overhauls its policies, its primary source of revenue and the basis of its geopolitical muscle could start to wane. Within a decade, says Saad Rahim, an analyst at Washington consultancy PFC Energy, “Iran’s net crude exports could fall to zero.”

    That’s not to say Iran doesn’t have abundant resources. The country’s 137 billion barrels of oil reserves are second only to Saudi Arabia’s, and its supply of gas trails only Russia’s, according to the BP Statistical Review of World Energy. Getting it all out of the ground, though, is another matter. Iran has been producing just 3.9 million barrels of oil a day this year, 5% below its OPEC quota, because of delays in new projects and a shortage of technical skills. By contrast, in 1974, five years before the Islamic Revolution, Iran pumped 6.1 million barrels daily.

    The situation could get even tougher for the National Iranian Oil Co. (NIOC), which is responsible for all of Iran’s output. Without substantial upgrades in facilities, production at Iran’s core fields, several of which date from the 1920s, could go into a precipitous decline. In September, Oil Minister Kazem Vaziri-Hamaneh suggested that with no new investment, output from Iran’s fields would fall by about 13% a year, roughly twice the rate that outside oil experts had expected. “NIOC is likely to find that even maintaining the status quo is a mounting challenge,” says PFC Energy’s Rahim.


  6. jerry says:

    Reminds me of that cartoon of some small bird giving the finger to a giant eagle that’s about to grab it.

  7. crosspatch says:

    That link to capital flight was from last year but it was a good story. The flight continunes and lately the US has been putting pressure on banks not to deal with Iran. Basically the deal is, if you want to do business in the US, don’t do business with Iran.

    Somehow I think the left would even complain about that. It seems odd that they don’t want military options on the table yet complain about non-military options to such an extent that the military option is the only path that remains. If the left wants to see a peaceful outcome, then they have to support non-military means such as economic pressure.

    Iran is in serious trouble internally in both economic and social terms. All of this nuclear stuff is designed to focus the attention of the people externally and rally the people to support a government made to appear the victim of world oppression. Of course, the fact that if they stopped the nuclear business or at least continued it under international supervision, that “oppression” would stop and their lives would improve is never mentioned.

    Oh, and Iran has taken more steps recently to further censor internet access. I would be surprised if this site is even available there. The government has issued a new policy that if you discuss the subject of Iran on your site, then you need to be registered with the Iranian government.

  8. Craig234 says:

    Typical right-wing arrogance.

    Listen to yourself – our goals in Iraq: try switching that around, how do you like the sound of Iranian leaders arrogantly spouting off how they’re justified in killing Americans in America who stand against ‘Iran’s goals in the US’ as their troops are occuptying us?

    You wouldn’t like that too much, but you are happy to spout off about ‘our goals in Iraq’ as if we have the right to send troops.

    Our only ‘right’ is at most for their benefit, not ours, but you right-wingers think that hegemony is your right.

    You people are evil – some people over there are too, but we need to clean our own house first, and *then* we can have the high ground.

  9. mariposa says:

    AJ, do you have a link for your original source? I’ll go looking, but if you see this note, please post the link if you can. Thank you.

  10. Barbara says:

    Yes, this is a good time to cut and run from Iraq. Let’s give Iran the oil rich Shiite portion of Iraq to Iran so they bolster their economy. That’s the smart way to self destruction. And let’s do nothing about Iran and Syria. Let’s let them take over or hold a closed fist over the entire ME with treats of WMDs. Let’s appeal to their better nature and bring peace to the region. Let’s stick our heads in the sand and get our butts be whipped.

    When are we going to act like the richest, most powerful country in the world? We don’t have to take a backseat to anybody. It is in our best interest to spread democracy to the ME regardless of the power hungry mullahs in this region.

    Crosspatch, Iran may be folding within, but when this happens it might be too late for us, Israel and the rest of the world. The longer we let these people get the upper hand, the harder it will be to stop them. History repeats itself over and over. Baker, Hamilton and Gates are the Neville Chamberlains. And the president of Iran is another Hitler calling for the destruction of the Jews. What is different here?

    And these people saying over and over ad nauseum that the Arabs do not have an army or navy don’t seem to understand that they don’t need an army or navy. All they need is 20 men to take over our own airplanes and crash them into buildings. And they don’t really need 20 men, just one man to plant explosives under a highly populated bridge, or on train or plane or even another building. Or a dirty bomb or two in strategic places. And with a two bit country like Iran getting nukes is dangerous. After all, they have said they want to destroy the world especially the west. What does the left think he means by it? Or do they think he can’t follow up. I assure you he can if he gets nukes.

    The time for opposing armies going against each other is over. This is no longer a viable way of fighting a war. Rumsfield had the right idea that we will have to fight this war with small units of special forces from now on. I am sorry he is gone but I wish the military would get over this idea of winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqis. That is not nearly as important as making this country strong and democratic. So what if they don’t like us . They would just be joining the opinion of the rest of the world..And like the rest of the world, they would come to us for help if they needed us.

  11. AJStrata says:

    Fixed a link (can’t remember where I saw it first)


  12. mariposa says:

    Follow God or vanish, Ahmadinejad tells West

    I think Ahmadinejad may be just nuts enough to do as AJ suggests.

  13. HaroldHutchison says:

    Ahmadinejad can’t have failed to notice that we have ICBMs, Trident submarines, and a whole bunch of bombers with ALCMs.

    I can only presume he doesn’t care. This is “suicide by cop” on a geopolitical scale.

  14. Barbara says:

    He doesn’t care. He is willing to die for his cause and is willing for the citizens of Iran to die also. We have to understand that these people don’t view life the way we do. They think their life will begin in the afterlife and they can’t wait to get there. If they take a few infidels with them so much the better they will probably be rewarded.

  15. crosspatch says:

    Oh, holy crap! This is going to REALLY hurt Iran! Remember that oil pipeline project I posted about above? Looks like India isn’t going to need it. They have just discovered major gas reserves.

  16. Ken says:


    “I have been predicting that Iran and the Islamo Fascists have been preparing to send a signal to the West, and the Democrats in particular, to make sure the US runs away from our goals in Iraq.”

    You have also been predicting imminent victory in the Iraq War
    –for two years or more… But ,not to put too fine point on it, the
    Baker report kind of makes it “official,”–the “goals” in Iraq
    have been much reduced “run/chased away ” from those of 2003.

  17. Ken says:


    Why not save the “cutesy” jargon and simply say you advocate the US invades Iran, kills off their leadership and implants a pro-Israel

  18. Ken says:


    You might want to try to achieve consistency in one post before you gush forth your Islamophobic paranoia.

    First you arrogantly-and most un-conservatively utter
    ‘It is in our best interest to spread democracy to the ME regardless of the power hungry mullahs in this region.’

    then you contradict yourself by

    ‘I am sorry he (Rumsfeld) is gone but I wish the military would get over this idea of winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqis. That is not nearly as important as making this country strong and democratic. So what if they don’t like us .’

    My mistake, Barbee-you have not just revealed a state of confusion:
    You wish not a democracy, but an imposed Iraqi puppet government.

    You win the Bush award for deserved self-defeating hypocrisy.

  19. AJStrata says:


    I not once predicted imminent victory. What a maroon…..

  20. Ken says:


    Your site first really caught my attention,– I’m guessing now,
    8 months ago, give or take, –when you were arguing what was
    taking place in Iraq should not be called a war. So I guess
    it’s all semantics.