May 25 2006

The Adult Steps In…

Published by at 3:34 pm under All General Discussions

Seems somebody had to step in, stop all the whining and stomping of feet and tell the children to calm down and behave themselves:

President Bush stepped into the Justice Department’s constitutional confrontation with Congress on Thursday and ordered that documents seized in an FBI raid on a congressman’s office be sealed for 45 days.

The president directed that no one involved in the investigation have access to the documents taken last weekend from the office of Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., and that they remain in the custody of the solicitor general.

Bush’s move was described as an attempt to cool off a heated confrontation between his administration and leaders of the House and Senate.

“This period will provide both parties more time to resolve the issues in a way that ensures that materials relevant to the ongoing criminal investigation are made available to prosecutors in a manner that respects the interests of a coequal branch of government,” Bush said.

In a statement, Bush said he recognized that Republican and Democratic leaders in the House had “deeply held views” that the search on Jefferson’s Capitol Hill office violated the Constitution’s separation of powers principles. But he stopped short of saying he agreed with them.

“Our government has not faced such a dilemma in more than two centuries,” the president said. “Yet after days of discussions, it is clear these differences will require more time to be worked out.”

Typical Bush, setting the proper, mature tone.

17 responses so far

17 Responses to “The Adult Steps In…”

  1. Terrye says:

    I agree but wait and see if this does not give people who like to bitch about Bush something else to complain about.

  2. AJStrata says:


    They need an excuse? 😉

  3. Rich says:

    Already the chorus has begun. What’s wrong with getting the issue resolved and then moving forward. Unfortunately, the kooks are in charge on the right and the left. I’ve thoroughly embarrassed to call myself a conservative right now. Its all or nothing right now. The only word that describes them is immature.

  4. bloodyspartan says:

    Bush is not setting a proper tone other than sealing records until Sandy Berger can stuff them down his pants and destroy them.

    He had no reason at all to do this.

    It seems you folks are the ones looking for excuses

    The great King George IV can stand the heat from Iraq, Afghanistan, War on Terror and the Plame scandal.

    Now for some silly reason he has to seal the records of a criminal.

    The last revolution was over a King George the III. Time for another.

  5. Terrye says:

    Ah yes, but just think the Republicans in the House are the ones who want to save us from the Latino invasion unlike the bad Bush who is personally responsible for 140 years of open border policy…so if Hastert wants to protect his thieving buddy that is ok fine so long as he stabs Bush in the back. But then again, maybe not.

  6. CatoRenasci says:

    Sorry, Bush is wrong here.

    The constitutional immunities of Congress were not even remotely implicated by this search — which came, it should be noted, after subpoenas were ignored for more than 8 months, and which was pursuant to a search warrant approved by a federal judge. This was flat defiance by Congress of requests for information about a CRIME which the FBI had other evidence of.

    Thus, Congress demanding immunity is essentially saying that there is no check upon Congress by the other branches, which is manifestly not true.

    I’ve been with you most of the way – I’ve been a loyal Republican since 1956 and have put up with a lot, but this, combined with the immigration stance of the Republican Senate is a bridge too far. I’m through with the Republicans until they 1) secure the borders for real and 2) cut the crap on the corrupt imperial congress.

    Congress threw Adam Clayton Powell out, and they should throw this clown Jefferson out.

    Hastert has completely lost my trust.

  7. Well Done…

    Ross has some explaining to do, especially with Hastert threatening legal action against ABC for publishing news reports that it knows to be false. Hastert’s counsel has written demanding a retraction of the story…

  8. bloodyspartan says:

    I also have voted for King Goerge twice, contributed money and much to the ire of of a hig paying former NY employer made my proclivities well know.

    This may be one of the reasons I cannot return who knows.

    But I am no longer in his or any other repub’s corner as long as they continue this path to destruction.

    I have no idea if King G plans to fund the disparity in SSI with all his new workers.
    Maybe he wants to bring about Dad’s New World Order.

    I have not the faintest idea.
    But being a great poker player he does have a plan.

    I know in my heart it is not in the best interests of the United States of America. The folks have no desire to fix their own country they sure as hell will not fix ours.

    As far as the majority of the politicians following him.

    I will remind you of the great line by Rip Torn in the movie with Nick Nolte as a T exas Ranger.
    “Jesus Christ Jack the only thing worse than a politician is a child molester.”

    That line lies up there as one of the greats along with the one Yul Brenner quoted to Charles Bronson in Villa Rides.

    After the soldiers had finished raping and looting Yul turns to Bronson and says.
    “Now they will do something”. This is in retort to Bronsons earlier entreaty about helping the villagers. He had replied it’s not the time.

    I fear we are in much the same shape

  9. AJStrata says:


    You may want to consider whether your continued rants don’t simply support Bush’s reasoning to let those who still have some self control, cool off. It is for 45 days! Nowhere is Bush siding with Hastert.


  10. Terrye says:


    In fact in the statement the White House put out today, Bush said that the information would be turned over to the prosecutors after both sides had a chance to cool down. At least that was the impression I got.

    On the panel on Special Report tonight Fred Barnes said this was about Bush saving Hastert from himself.

  11. bloodyspartan says:

    My point is Bush has his own agenda.
    I could go on forever.

    Watch how we are crucifying the Head of the VA but Sandy Berger is allowed to basically commit treason.

    Why is it that the Club of lawyers in the FBI no one to the best of my knowledge was fired, mostly promoted..
    What happens to those temporary tax cuts the just signed. If a democrat goes in we will lose them.

    6 Years in charge and still no American initiaves to explore for Domestic Oil..

    How about we discuss the Fact we now use Green ammunition and not Israeli.
    Or I am told we buy Ammuniton from the Red Chinese for our M-1A Abrahams. No way we can beat them without ammo.

    Yes Bush has done some good but his bad is easily outwaying that in my view.

    You think I am ranting fine, maybe I respect your views. You think I am wrong great.

    I know I am not. I have studied history all my life read hundreds of books.

    All civilizations collapse. We are in the middle of ours.
    We may not die but we may not remain a republic either not a democracy as King G is fond of saying.

    I know we are no longer a unified nation. George is definitely not unifying it.
    The best way to destroy is from within. I thing that is exactly what he is doing. He has succeded in splitting the right apart.

    I believe he is succeeding is spite of, not because of.

    Watching all this makes me worry the reason there are no attacks is not that we are prepared but because we are on the attack,
    The moment we let up they will start again..
    Under Reagan the intake in the treasury doubled. Yes we outspent it can Bush claim the same growth. Time will tell.

    Day in day out I apply for Jobs. Including Walmart and the like not by choice I need enough to get off disabiltiy and take care of Mom.
    My back will no longer allow me to dig ditches.
    I cannot tell you how many new carrers I try to start..

    I have done it all. From garbage to the A-10.

    It may be better in a lot of other states but when I have to pay 400 a month for just light I know we are not on the right path.

    Regardless I think you have to stop and seperate why I would vote for both Bushes and now regret it.

    My emotional rants have nothing to do with King George. for you to associate them with validating Georges actions just goes to show how far we are from each other.

    Be Well AJ

  12. carol johnson says:


    I totally agree with that statement that Bush was trying to save Hastert from himself. At least I believe it was one of the things Bush is trying to accomplish. Mr. Hastert however is MY rep from MY state and I have come to the conclusion that he no longer serves the interests of his constituents over the imagined “privilege” he thinks all congressmen are entitled to. Sorry, that didn’t go down very well with me. Instead of discussing this calmly with Bush or the DOJ in the first place, Hastert jumped in front of the first camera he could find and proceeded to try to make this a constitutional issue (which it is not). Shame on Hastert.

    These days there is an atmosphere in Congress that is so poisonous it threatens to destroy any hope of civil debate in congress or elsewhere. As the Senate and the House try to come to agreement on the immigration problem, this has never been more obvious. As far as I’m concerned the Senate just threw up their hands and passed the buck to the House…the reasons for which should be obvious.

    I think a guest worker program would be totally acceptable IF benefits, illegally obtained (i.e. Social Security fraud and income tax credits) are NOT included in any final solution. To do otherwise, in my opinion is to sanction criminal activity. IF the congress will strip those sorts of provisions or admendments from the bill, it will help save the parts that people really “can” live with. THAT’S a compromise I can accept. Another bone of contention is employer accountability. They simply can’t throw their hands up and say it’s all the government’s problem. It’s everybody’s problem now.

    Well, sorry I went on so much. Of course, its just my two cents.


  13. roonent1 says:


    Bush is not the problem for all your ills. Please save us the propaganda.

    The econmy under Bush is allot better than it was ever under Clinton, and the unemployment rate is lower. The stock market and the GDP are better. Clinton’s stock market was built on top companies submitting false inflated profit numbers. Truth be known, if the investors were aware of the 100’s of companies that inflated their profits under Clinton, the stock market would have probably a few thousand points lower.

    No president during the history of our Union has had to deal with the large scale issues that this president has.

    Let’s recap:

    1) Worst attack on our soil causing largest single loss of life.
    2) The attack cost the single most devastation to our economy, costing us trillions of dollars that severly impacted our national debt.
    3) Our air transportation security sytem had to be completely revamped and the flight industry was almost crippled.
    4) A biologocial attack on our US mail system, that shut it down. Our mail system and checking of packages had to be completely revamped.
    5) Some of our top performing companies were found to be falsely inflating their profits, causing complete distrust in the stock market.
    6) The president had to launch two wars to hunt doen Al qaeda and those that support and funded terrorism. This was forced upon him to protect the American people. Clinton should have dealt with Al Qaeda when they were still in diapers and had no grown into adulthood.
    7) The president had to deal with the largest natural disaster on American soil. He also assisted with the largest natural disaster to take human life internationally (tsunami).
    8) The president inherited an economy that was going tinto recession as he took office.
    9) The president had to deal with the aftermath of the tech industry going bankrupt and flat.
    10) The president had to deal and is dealing with a coordinated conspiracy of rogue cia and former agents, democratic operatives, donk senators and congressmen and a liberal media. No administration has faced such a conspiracy from traitors since Lincoln did.
    11) Lastly this president has had to deal with a coordinated daily onslaught from 90 percent of the media that is liberal and completely biased in its reporting for 5 years! No president, and I repeat confidently, no president has ever faced such a relentless attack from a lying, treacherous biased media.

    There are many of us that see these things and do not forget. It is becasue of the above accomplishments that I admire our president. We are damn lucky to have him lead us through these trying times. Most men could not without honor, and I can include most of our previous presidents.

    If you want to slam Bush that is your perogative but calling him names like “King George” reflects very poorly on you and shows your intellect. He is President Bush and should not have his office tarnished in words. Your words tell us allot about you and from where I sit, it is not pretty.

  14. smh1012 says:


    Well said and 100% agreed!

    There is only one thing I would add. With a majority in both Houses of Congress, I would have hoped to see the Republicans actually appear to have some control. Far too many instances of this President being stabbed by the same individuals whose jobs he helped secure.

    Other than that, I think you got it all.

  15. Jane W says:

    Typical Bush, setting the proper, mature tone.

    Oh baloney!

    I’ve supported this president through thick and thin. I love him. I respect him. I honor him. But my gawd, this move is just bull-

    In 2000 the republicans ran on the notion that elected officials are not above the law. Well – we can cross that one off the list.

  16. AJStrata says:

    Jane W,

    He sealed the records for 45 days – nothing more. What in the world are you reading into all this? He said it was a cooling down period. The media noted he did not say Hastert was right or the probe would end. I think you are overspeculating well beyond the reporting. Make sure your not succumbing to the media’s world view!

  17. Jane W says:

    “Cooling down period” my a–!

    He was bailing out Hastert who is acting like he has something to hide. I actually believe in the rule of law and I thought the President did too.

    And I’m not speculating a damn thing. This was a warrant that was ordered by the executive branch and approved by the judiciary. I expected nothing more from the mealy-mouth congress, but I expected a lot more from the President.

    And I could come up with a rash of excuses why this is okay, except it’s not okay.