Mar 10 2010
Washington Totally Clueless
Obamacare is dying because the DC liberals are just clueless. And I mean dumb as a rock clueless. They keep pretending they are the smarter group between America and the liberal enclaves, but watching a little over a year of liberal ‘leadership’ it is becoming rapidly apparent these people are CLUELESS!
First we have the polls, which like a fine oiled machine keep ratcheting downward every time Onama and the Congressional libs try to push the government taker of our private health insurance (which most of us like just fine, thank you, minus cost). Obama now has twice as many people who strongly DISAPPROVE of him than strongly approve of him. They dislike him, they really, really dislike him. This is not partisan – look at the independents who now strongly disapprove by 3 to 1!
Among those not affiliated with either major political party, 17% Strongly Approve and 45% Strongly Disapprove.
Yeah, that will play well in 2010 and 2012, and I doubt we have hit rock bottom yet. For months the message from America has been consistent and clear. The anger rising at the hyper-partisan power grab is reaching a boiling point. Can the liberals in DC screw up anymore?
Apparently they can. These geniuses in DC don’t even know the rules of Congress– the place they control!
The White House and Democratic Congressional leaders said Tuesday that they were bracing for a key procedural ruling that could complicate their effort to approve major health care legislation, by requiring President Obama to sign the bill into law before Congress could revise it through an expedited budget process.
No one checked to see if reconciliation could be used on legislation THAT WAS NOT LAW YET??? I mean, it makes sense you cannot reconcile something that is not law yet! All this talk for months about this nuclear option and no one checked to see if the trigger could be pulled all at once?
Like I said, clueless.
I occurs to me that the Democrats better hope the Senate bill does not get passed by the House, whether or not Obama has to sign it before it can be “reconciled”.
I cannot imagine a scenario in which Obama could resist demanding that his lackies in the House send him the bill once it was signed, or that once he had signed it, that it would not be instantly “forgotten” by the Senate due to more pressing business. (For that matter, do the house or Senate even have the authority NOT to send a bill for signature once it is passed by both?)
If this travesty should occur, the reaction against the President and the Democrat leaders will be incredible, and much of it will come from the Dems themselves, and even from the media – it will be too big a break of good faith to hide. It will be the effective end of Obama’s ability to do anything, and of any Democrat to get elected this Fall.
The house will passeth the bill
He will sign it.
It will descend upon the masses
and they will like it.
So sayeth the One.
(cuz, they will really have no choice, ehh?)
Either the Obama administration and Congress DROP ObamaCare or we enter the age of mass disobedience. What’ll the feds do, imprison a third of the whole country?
The problem, Aitch, is that they don’t plan to imprison a third of the country – they plan to bankrupt the ENTIRE country!
And that they can do quite easily if they are allowed to get their way.
Still – saw Pelosi saying that she had the votes “if the vote were held today.” HA!!!! Then hold the vote today!! What’s stopping you???
No one even pretends to believe the lies anymore – not even the people telling them.
My question is if this farce passes the house with no changes , on what basis can there be a reconciliation. Obama is snowing the house.
However, I have gone past the healthcare bill. What about Obama’s executive order saying that no one can fish off the coasts or any of the inland waters? How does he have this authoriity? He would be putting thousands of people and charter business out of work. Or is this another outrageous ploy he will have to rescind later like so many other idiotic rulings. I have no dog in this race. I don’t fish and I don’t eat fish. It is the principle of the thing. He cannot tell us we cannot take advantage our natural resources. We own this country. He doesn’t except as one of many and I question that.
I am beginning to think there is a method to his madness. He keeps these boondoggles coming fast and furious, rescinds some of them to allow others to sneak in because we don’t have time to bring them all up or rather keep them all up in the news. So many outrageous things he has done and said have been forgotten. This must be another of Alinsky’s rules.
What is so shocking to me is the absolute takeover of Congress. There doesn’t seem to be a democrat left who honors his oath to protect and defend the constitution, or to look after the interests of their constituents. Are there any “Americans” left or are they all about greed, power and money.
The rush to take control over every aspect of our life continues no matter how much we tell them we don’t want it.
About reconciling a bill that hasn’t been passed, that they are even considering it shows how little respect they have for the rule of law, yet WE are expected to blindly accept whatever they pass, constitutional or not.
AJ,
I’m not sure I know where you’re coming from here. I’m only in my early 40s, and I don’t think of myself in any way as being this ‘wise old owl’, but I feel like I have a pretty good understanding of how this has all worked out in the past and where the long-term trends are in the U.S. The story in this country going at least back to the 1930s is one of the inexorable increase in the size and scope of government, principally the federal government (but state and local, as well). Obama is one year in office, and already the federal is much larger (in spending, workforce, regulatory power, etc.) than it was before he came into office. Even a moderate healthcare bill will almost certainly involve some further increase in government reach. And, of course, we know that very little will ever be rolled back.
Modern conservatism since its birth in the late 50s/early 60s has been devoted to smaller government. Its crests in influence have been the Reagan Presidency and the first couple of years of the Gingrich Speakership in the House. When you look graphically at the growth in the size and scope of the federal government over time, you can barely identify these periods.
No, I’m sorry to say, but barring some radical departure from our current course, it’s “game over†for reigning in government until we hit the eventual crisis. You can talk about rejecting the “extremes†of the Republican Party and how the voices of moderation are taking over. You may be right. But if they do, we’re headed to the same place anyway. Liberal Democrats just get us there faster. Forget about moderation. The path of the “moderates†is not any different from the one we’re on. It’s just that the moderates are the mini-bike; liberal democrats are the high-speed rail.
The socialists in Washington are not clueless. They know (1) they are probably going to take a huge hit in November, (2) they’ll be back in power one day, (3) none of the changes they make will be rolled back before they’re back in power, and (4) as government gets bigger, their political position strengthens. I read article after article these days going on and on how bad Democrats are doing and there going to get creamed, etc. etc. I have news for you: they’re winning! They’ve been winning my whole life. They may not be winning as big as they would like, but they’re winning.
Right now, government at all levels has reached the point where it takes almost half of the income of the average middle class family in the form of taxes and fees of various kinds. Then the politicians say ‘you know what, you don’t have enough security in your healthcare or retirement’. Well, if I knew my net income was going to be double what is today for every year of the rest of my life, I wouldn’t need your help! I’ll take care of my own retirement and healthcare. But, that’s not the most perverse part. They take have of my money, tell me I’m too poor to do everything I need to do, and then tell me I have to give them MORE money so that they can provide those things for me!
Jimmy, you’ve hit on it – there is no such thing as a “moderate” democrat. The entire party has become far left wing, lock stock and barrel.
They could have run the country for a generation if they would have embraced the independants in the middle – instead they, drunk with power, have decided to fly their true colors and give everyone in this country the finger.
“are they all about greed, power and money.”
Absolutely!!!!
I still have that sinking feeling though. Every time I hear one of the Dims that voted no before justifying why it’s different now and they think it’s a better bill now, ta la de da
sure as hell, they’re gonna sink the country….
Voters contemplate their own “Slaughter Plan” for November.
Just about all the polsters have Obama’s numbers going south. But not the AP, no siree. They have him at 53. Of course they just ask for adults, and over poll Democrats to get a number about 10 points higher than anyone else…and then they tout the numbers and say they prove that Obama is still an asset to his party. Clueless is right.
I do not want to be pessimistic, but I have bad feeling about this bill.
The demsheviks/Obama know they are screwed in 2010 and possible in 2012. Why would they accept the ugly defeat without anything for them in the long run?
They put themselves in a lose-lose situation in the short run, but they are very strategic in their madness, trying to push further and further on the socialist/statist road.
By the way, since when there is moderation on this blog?
I do not remember it before…
I do not understand why my first posting about my fear that this bad, bad bill will pass, disappeared.
It was factual and the language more than civilized.
There is a front page, above the fold article in the South China Morning Post today about the problems in the government hospitals here.
Unlike a lot of Ex-Pats I don’t make big bucks and have had to use the socialized health care system here. It is absoultely awful. The county hospitals in the US are much better.
You’d think that in a place as rich as Hong Kong they could nake a socialized health care system work. They can’t. It cost too much.
I don’t normall post links but I think the one below is appropriate to the discussion at hand:
http://faimao.blogspot.com/2005/04/life-and-death-in-hong-kong-hospital.html
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@cochino…
Your analysis is excellent, and while I really hope you are wrong, I must admit that your words found deep resonance in my subconscious. I pray that we can fight hard enough and long enough to outlast those who propel us toward a destiny that a vast majority of us don’t want. I, for one, will go down swinging.