Nov 18 2009
Far Right Is Also A Prime Culprit In The Current Liberal Federal Government
Can we survive the liberal policies of Obama, Pelosi and Reid? We might just find out the hard way:
Poll: 51% of Republicans would rather risk losing elections than win with RINOs
Actually, the path forward is for the far right purists to be replaced in the GOP coalition by the centrists flooding away from the liberal Democrats. This would clobber both fringes at once. If we want to go for purity, it all depends on who gets purged – right? A purely centrist party would have two divided and impotent camps in opposition.
Bring it on.
AJ, how do you characterize Sarah Palin?
Can the Strata-Sphere readers survive Aj’s obsession with clobbering us responsible Conservatives?
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[us? is that correct grammar?]
I think much of Republican sentiment to ‘risk’ loss with principled candidates rather than supporting ‘RINOs’ is less about total ideological purity (which I agree borders on insanity, or at least silliness), but on the perception that the GOP’s only hope for electoral success is to be, and to sustain being, a party of principle. Not necessarily rigidity, but a fundamental commitment to the basic principles of limited government and liberty. Many of us see a substantial part of the problem has been the party’s losing its way as a party of principle and becoming simply another party with its snout in the public trough.
I agree wth CatoRenasci. When ever AJ brings up “Rhino”, he never bothers to actually define the term. During the 2008 primary, when it got to Florida, Fred Thompson had dropped out. So, I supported Giuliani. I was willing to overlook his stand on abortion because I knew he strongly supported the war on terror and he understood balancing budgets.
But, I do not want to support anyone who calls himself Republican while supporting all of the standard Democratic Party platform planks. That makes no sense at all to me. What good is it to have a “majority” when the majority is as committed to Democratic planks as are the actual Democrats.
No, AJ, I would rather take a shot with a Hoffman rather than a Scozzafava. The only thing I get with Scozzafava is she won’t vote for Pelosi as Speaker. Other than that, she would vote Democratic. If she had won, she would have been difficult to run against. Owen will be a lot easier to beat and it looks as if Hoffman came closer than initially thought. I have no doubt that Owen will not win in NY-23 next year. DeDe probably would have.
Rick
Oh pullease. I need to define the insulting terms thrown out by the far right for them?
ROTFLMAO!
Oh pullease. I need to define the insulting terms thrown out by the far right for them?
ROTFLMAO!
When good standing GOP members like McCain, Bush, Kyle Harriet Miers and other were slammed as RINOs, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out folks.
Sarah is Sarah and (like me) refuses to be categorized.
Maybe if people stopped with the group labeling they could come to the big table of conservatives and work to fix things instead of trying to prove how pure and better they are????
A.J. I CANNOT understand why you refuse to accept a philosophy whereby a lot of people absolutely refuse to have party hacks put up candidates who have an ‘R’ beside their name – as a badge of convenience – but as soon as they are elected vote the straight ‘D’ ticket in Congress. Why should we put up with this nonsense for one more minute??? If they’re going to vote ‘D’, why should we be asked to vote for them in the 1st place? I’d appreciate an answer.
Question A.J. What’re your thoughts on this?
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers. I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.†( Ronald Reagan )
Gee alwyr, maybe its because I have been called a party hack by buffoons on this site because I sound like a RINO???
Just guessing here.
CatoRenasci pretty much says it for me, also.
AJ is right, however, in his insinuation that the term “RINO” is thrown around too often.
And, it must be said that moderates are ridiculous in suggesting that the “selected one” by GOP DC insiders can’t be challenged in a primary race by a conservative.
Sarah Palin quote from a recent interview:
“You know another key to this, too, is to not hesitate duking it out within the party. This is what I appreciate about the Republican Party. We have contested, aggressive, competitive primaries. We’re not like this herd mentality like a bunch of sheep — with the fighting instincts of sheep, as Horowitz would say — like some in the Democrat Party; where, heaven forbid, you take a stand and you oppose somebody within your own party because it’s the right thing to do. I appreciate that in the Republican Party. Some on the other side say — you know, they’re observing what goes on in the GOP and say — “That’s infighting, and they can’t get along, and there’s no consensus there.” No. This is healthy debate, good competition that makes candidates work harder. It makes for a better product, if you will, at the end of the day. I appreciate that about our party. ”
-Sarah Palin-
what rhetorical and substantive changes are needed … but … attributed the defeats to local factors
These guys don’t drink their own Kool-Aid ?
Competing for ideas is not the issue, it is the poor losers who are so enamored with their omnipotence!
I doubt you are rolling on the floor. But, I do not doubt you don’t want to actually define RINO and how you are using it. Even a rocket scientist knows enough to define his terms.
Rick
Rick – it’s not my term! Duh
What I find amusing is how the Far Right preaches Reagan and completely ignores his 80% philosophy.
The only people I ever see using the disgusting term “RINO” are far right conservatives who are not Republican, lean Libertarian, and are mostly out to make mischief so we can’t have a majority. There is no other logical explanation.
SJ Reidhead
The Pink Flamingo
“Sarah is Sarah and (like me) refuses to be categorized.
Maybe if people stopped with the group labeling they could come to the big table of conservatives and work to fix things instead of trying to prove how pure and better they are????”
I think you already categorized central right, moderates, and far right. The problem isn’t category but the application of your categories that is confusing to some of us.
AJ
What I call a rino is someone like Dede of NY23 and that is what everyone is saying. She is a liberal at heart and was only in the republican party because most the constituents in her district are conservatives. It was stupid of the GOP in NY23 to pick her. If she had won she would have voted with the dems every time. What is the use in having a republican vote for dem policies? We might as well have not even voted.
I am not a hard right republican but I do want someone in office who espouses at least 80% of my beliefs. And I am definitely not a religious right. Abortion is moot and it will never be overturned. so there is no sense in bringing it up in regards to a candidate. I want a candidate who believes in national security, winning the war, constitutional judges and small government. I want the government out of my life and not telling me what to do. I don’t want someone who will vote for Obama’s policies or the dems’ policies.
BTW, I have asked you before to tell us your definition of a rino. I have told you mine and would appreciate your telling us yours. I don’t understand why you won’t do this. You come out blasting the far right every once in a while and never tell us who you are talking about or where you got your information.
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.”
I wonder why Ronald Reagan would say that.
Sarah worked to defeat a RINO in NY-23. because that RINO was a true RINO.
I’ll give one definition of a RINO: Ronald Reagan. I think he was a conservative specifically and only a Republican because the alternative was Democrat.
that’s kinda the way I am, I’m conservative but vote Republican because there is NOT an alternative. I’m definitely not ‘far right’.