Dec 19 2005

There Is No Running Away

Published by at 2:41 pm under All General Discussions

The video is out on the latest killing of an American hostage (violence alert). While Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi wonder why we need to monitor communications between Al Qaeda overseas and contact here, maybe it would help them to watch the video, and review this.

7 responses so far

7 Responses to “There Is No Running Away”

  1. Ghost Dansing says:

    Dubya and this Republican administration already had the ability to monitor U.S. Citizens within the FISA framework. Their illegal circumvention provided no new capability. The FISA court is specialized, quick, and seldom turns down a request. Plus the FISA Law has provisions for extraordinary circumstances where agencies can actually operate without warrant for a limited period.

    Check out George Will on the topic.

    The question should be, “What are these guys really up to?”

  2. LuckyBogey says:

    Echelon-Able Danger-TIA-Shamrock2000-Son of Able Danger

    Ghost – I posted this at CQ this morning. I respect George Will however this is all about technology and has nothing to do with getting a warrant.

    I suggest this program is Son of Able Danger and our President has been keeping Dr Preisser very busy.

  3. Snapple says:

    I’ll tell you what President Bush is up to.

    He is doing the job America reelected him to do: he is protecting the American people’s civil liberties and lives by catching the evil-doers.

    Not what the ACLU does.

    I guess that worries you, huh?

    I’m no lawyer, but it could be that there is some wiggle-room in the small print of this FISA law.

  4. Snapple says:

    This article says that a FISA Court Approved NSA’s spying.

    “Bush’s so-called “illegal” spy program has indeed undergone judicial review. And a special foreign intelligence surveillance appeals court set up to review the case confirmed that such “warrantless searches” were completely legal.”

  5. Snapple says:


    CNN is carrying the trial of Saddam. Today they are showing the testimony of Mr. Haydari before Judge Rizgar.

    Mr.Haydary was 14 when his family was taken after someone attempted to murder Saddam in his town. There were 10 children in the family. He says they were all arrested at home while they were fasting during Rmadan. I think a lot of them died.

    I can’t hear it all because they interrupt with commentary.

    He is describing how they were tortured, starved and denied health care in the security center.

    He was taken to Abu Ghraib where many young children died.
    He had a sister born in prison who died. It seems like his whole extended family was rounded up, even men who were serving in the military.

    He describes the mistreatment by the guards.

  6. Snapple says:

    The legal commentator says that an older brother of Mr. Haydari
    did participate in this assasination attempt on Saddam, but the entire family was imprisoned–43 people.

    After they were in Abu Ghraib they were in some prison in the desert where a lot of people died. He describes how they were robbed under the pretext of a “donation”.

    His brothers were executed. Some of them were children.

    The Shiite mosque of the city Dujail was demolished and many of the people who went there were mostly killed.

  7. Snapple says:


    The prosecutor says there is a big surprise coming.

    It had been mentioned on this blog that this guy Sobree may testify about Saddam’s weapons program. Maybe that is what the prosecutor is hinting at, but I don’t know.

    It’s good that CNN has this trial on.