May 21 2009

Cheney Vs Obama

Published by at 1:39 pm under All General Discussions,Bin Laden/GWOT

Update: Can’t get a You Tube version to work – here is a copy at Fox

Here are Cheney’s comments today:

What happens to President Obama when he looks less informed and off track when compared to the ex-Vice President? A crisis of confidence seems to come to mind …

Addendum: To pre-empt the fever swamps on the left about Vice Presidents challenging the next administration I have to note the mad Al Gore and his rantings on pending doom from all corners, from Iraq to CO2.

Again, the comparison is quite enlightening. One VP calmly and rationally explaining how we protected this nation from a second 9-11, the other raging like a lunatic with his paranoid delusions.

31 responses so far

31 Responses to “Cheney Vs Obama”

  1. Frogg says:

    Flash from the past:

    I have to admit that it is hard to explain McCain at times. But, I seem to remember that he was opposed to waterboarding as a general policy; but, didn’t want it banned.

    McCain Defends Vote On Waterboarding

    GOP Hopeful Says Bush Should Veto Bill Barring Harsh Interrogation Methods

    (AP) Republican presidential candidate John McCain said President Bush should veto a measure that would bar the CIA from using waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods on terror suspects.

    McCain voted against the bill, which would restrict the CIA to using only the 19 interrogation techniques listed in the Army field manual.

    His vote was controversial because the manual prohibits waterboarding – a simulated drowning technique that McCain also opposes – yet McCain doesn’t want the CIA bound by the manual and its prohibitions.

  2. Frogg says:

    Wow! Have you seen the Democrats attacking Cheney today???

    Video: Lawrence O’Donnell, Bob Beckel wet themselves over Cheney’s speech


    I wonder by it didn’t bother them that Obama attacked the Bush Admin 28 times in his speech?

  3. Frogg says:

    I hope this gets more attention…

    From Cheney’s speech:

    “This might explain why President Obama has reserved unto himself the right to order the use of enhanced interrogation should he deem it appropriate. What value remains to that authority is debatable, given that the enemy now knows exactly what interrogation methods to train against, and which ones not to worry about. Yet having reserved for himself the authority to order enhanced interrogation after an emergency, you would think that President Obama would be less disdainful of what his predecessor authorized after 9/11. It’s almost gone unnoticed that the president has retained the power to order the same methods in the same circumstances. “

  4. Frogg says:

    Obama in Bush clothing (by Charles Krauthammer)

    …the usual Obama three-step: (a) excoriate the Bush policy, (b) ostentatiously unveil cosmetic changes, (c) adopt the Bush policy.

    …The genius of democracy is that the rotation of power forces the opposition to come to its senses when it takes over. When the new guys, brought to power by popular will, then adopt the policies of the old guys, a national consensus is forged and a new legitimacy established.

    That’s happening before our eyes. The Bush policies in the war on terror won’t have to await vindication by historians. Obama is doing it day by day. His denials mean nothing. Look at his deeds.

  5. gary1son says:

    Palin – Cheney 2012!

    (Liz Cheney that is. Same common sense ideology and effective, skillful articulation, but better hair and general overall looks)

    Liz says that she’s sorry we didn’t have this debate before the election. Problem was, McCain put himself in a position where he logically couldn’t, to the point of having himself cited several times by Obama in his bratty speech — for cover.

  6. penguin2 says:

    Dick Cheney comes across with class and thoughtfulness. The elder statesman of which he is one. Obama comes across as Kathie said “angry, childish, and snippy” which he does when he is on the defensive. To me, he is the ‘boy who would be king’ and Cheney is the truly wise counsel behind a throne. I am grateful he is out there now and speaking up, at least someone is taking a stand.

  7. owl says:

    Frogg, forget trying to explain McCain. I put that bug under the glass when we were debating the vote between him and Bush 2000. We liked both. So after he lost, I continued to watch him.

    Immediately picked up on his sore loser attitude. Look how he whined that the Bush campaign was so terrible that he just had to pass Campaign Fiance Reform.

    Didn’t anyone understand why he got religion on that issue?

    The more I watched the more incensed I became of his behavior. I understand he was tortured. So I watched him appear over and over on MSNBC and toss them meat.

    I sum him up as the closest thing to Jimmy Carter that we Pugs will ever see. Words such as self-righteous and sanctimonious apply to both. He is not a gracious man. Who took 100% credit for the surge? What was his answer when people would ask him about Sarah? No, I can respect his service but no, I do not have to keep my mouth shut about his outlandish behavior.

    Outlandish? He not only called it torture but tried his darnest to link it with Abu Ghraib. He is the one that needs to shut up.

    You want to know the worst thing riding Bush’s back besides MSM? Colin Powel and John McCain. Both are mud in my book because I can not find honor in their outrageous backstabbing.

  8. conman says:

    These comments are priceless and so indicative of what is wrong with the GOP and conservatives. Not only do you folks advocate Cheney as the standard bearer for military and national security policy, the most unpopular and loathed political figure in the country today, but you actually think his opinion trumps that of Colin Powell and John McCain. You know you are in deep trouble when you are throwing well respected war decorated heros from your own party under the bus on military/national security issues because some fool who dodged military service (can you say deferment chicken hawk) and has never served a day in his life thinks he knows what is best for everyone.

  9. Alert1201 says:

    Notice conman’s typical liberal response. Ignore the substance of the arguments, look to pols, character assassinations, typical knee jerk baseless chicken hawk argument and so forth.

    Thanks conman you’ve just given me a reason never to read one of your posts again.

  10. Paul_In_Houston says:

    owl said:
    What was his answer when people would ask him about Sarah?

    He tolerated sniping from his own campaign people about what a drag she was on the campaign (when, in fact, SHE was the only one of them who appeared to be running).

    To Dave Lettermann, he laughed and replied, “Hey! These things happen.”
    G** D*** IT!!!
    HE picked HER; and then did NOT have her back. In a former military person, this is absolutely unforgivable.

  11. GuyFawkes says:


    “Rush was all over the preventive detention stuff. Amazing! If Bush would have attempted anything like this the libs, including the MSM would have taken to the streets.”

    You might be the single most stupid person it has ever been my displeasure to come across in my 20+ years on the Net.

    Tell me one thing about GITMO that does not meet the definition of “preventive detention”.

    And then show me when the MSM took to the streets.

    Here’s a hint: the left is outraged about this “preventive detention stuff” — because it is an example of Obama acting *exactly like Dubya”. The fact that you somehow think this is something new is proof of the fact that you don’t understand a single thing about the world around you.