Apr 07 2008
Sadr Will Surrender – Dems And SurrenderMedia Screw Up Again
Major Update: It seems the UK news media, which is not as vested in a US defeat in Iraq as our American SurrenderMedia, has reported on the pending victory for Maliki against Sadr:
From The Times
April 7, 2008
Iraq: Al-Mahdi army offers to lay down its armsIraq’s largest and most dangerous militia, the Mahdi Army, will disband voluntarily if leading Shia scholars advise its leader to do so, officials said today, in a dramatic move that could quell much of the fighting in the country.
Aides to Hojetoleslam Moqtada al-Sadr, who is under mounting political and military pressure, said that the militia chief would send delegations to Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, a moderate religious leader in Najaf, and to senior clerics in Qom in Iran to consult on whether he should stand down his 60,000-strong militia.
The sudden announcement came as Lieutenant-General David Petraeus, Commander of US Forces in Iraq, starts two days of testimony to Congress on the success of America’s troop “surgeâ€.
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The position of Hojetoleslam al-Sadr, whose fighters had fought government forces to a standstill in Basra, was looking increasingly precarious today. His erstwhile ally, Nouri al-Maliki, the Shia Prime Minister, who led the Basra crackdown personally, saw his popular support bolstered by his tough stance on lawless militias.
Despite the inconclusive results of his Basra offensive, Mr al-Maliki has refused to back down and this weekend stitched together a rare consensus of Kurds, Sunnis and Shias to back a draft law banning any party that maintains a militia from running in future elections.
A massive American and Iraqi security presence had ringed the area, with police and soldiers guarding every exit as many people here predicted a final, bloody showdown with the Mahdi Army, which appeared to be losing popular support.
Those poor Surrendercrats on The Hill cannot lose for winning. It seems we have a victory in Iraq over the Mahdi Militias, to go with the victory over al-Qaeda. And we have seen in past months legislation passed that represents major progress in creating an integrated Iraq across the various factions, and we have new Iraqi elections coming. Only someone in serious denial would see all this as a defeat. Maybe they will come out with some wild conspiracy about how this is a US plot run by VP Cheney to take over the world.
What is clear is those poor, doom & gloom democrats won’t see the second coming of Vietnam after all. This was THE DEMOCRAT’s Tet Offensive – it was the terrorists and insurgents who buckled under the surge of Iraqi and US forces, and it was the Dems who predicted that they would win the day. Now the Dems will reap the rewards of their obsessive defeatism – most likely at the polls in November. They are no longer credible on national security. – end update
Well, that did not take long. I barely got my previous post finished on how bad a week the Surrendercrats are going to have when old “Mookie” al-Sadr comes out in a stunning announcement and says he will disband his Mahdi Militia if the central Shia council tells him to:
raqi Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr will disband his Mehdi Army militia if top Shi’ite clerics including Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani order him to do so, a senior Sadr aide told Reuters on Monday.
Aide Hassan Zargani told Reuters that Sadr had told his representatives in both the holy Iraqi city of Najaf and also the Iranian city of Qom to ask top Shi’ite religious leaders for advice on whether to dissolve the militia.
“If they order the Mehdi Army to disband, Moqtada al-Sadr and the Sadr movement will obey the orders of the religious leaders,” said Zargani, who was speaking from Iran.
As I noted previously the Shia council apparently is already on board with the disarming of the Sadr’s militia since they were aligned with Maliki on exiling anyone who has militia’s from political office:
Parliament was also planning to isolate al-Mahdi Army by drafting a Bill banning parties that maintain militias from running for office. It was backed by a rare alliance of Shia, Sunni and Kurdish parties, although several of the parties involved run militias themselves.
Mr al-Maliki’s main backer in Government, the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, has its own militia, the Badr Brigades, which has often fought the more powerful al-Mahdi Army. “We want the Sadrists to disband al-Mahdi Army. Just freezing it is no longer acceptable,†an adviser to Mr al-Maliki said. “The new election law will prevent any party that has weapons or runs a militia from contesting elections.â€
And Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani has been pretty clear about the militia’s as well:
Iraq’s national security adviser has said that the country’s most senior Shia cleric supports a government attempt to disarm the country’s sectarian militias.
Mowaffaq al-Rubaie said he had secured Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani’s support during a meeting in the city of Najaf on Wednesday.
The Shia clergyman gave his assent as Iraq’s government pushed ahead with a plan that will attempt to stablise Baghdad, the country’s capital, by disarming Shia and Sunni militias.
Sadr is grasping for a face saving way out of the mess he is in. He thought he could resist the central government and is learning he is not gaining support, but losing it at a stunning rate. So he must sue for peace now, and will use the council as his cover to surrender.
Which leaves the Surrendercrats and SurrenderMedia in a fine pickle as they try and spin the situation in Iraq as a pending failure – after a year of incredible successes. The only chance they had to paint Iraq as out of control was the Shia militias. al-Qaeda has been beaten severely in the last year and is trying to hold onto their last foothold in the north – which won’t be possible. And now Sadr has basically pulled the rug out from the Surrendercrats by quitting the ‘civil war’.
What is a defeatist democrat to do when all their allies in the insurgency and terrorist camps keep losing? My suggestion is to eat their crow with humility and respect for their betters, who showed how America can attain victory in Iraq and cripple al-Qaeda in the process. Will they admit their mistakes? Hell no – they will make up pure fantasies and try and promote the idea they were never wrong and it was them who fixed Iraq by trying to lose it to our enemies. If you want comedy, Congress will be the place to watch this week.
Well norm, once it is clear to the American people the Shia Militia’s are being disbanded by a concerted effort by the Iraqis across the various sects they will realize why the fools on the left were so wrong, and Iraq is heading towards a victory.
You can’t have a defeat if Iraqis purge their country of al-Qaeda and the militias. You poor folks on the left are just not going to get that massive American defeat you were fantasizing about. How sad!
so we lost 4000 troops, and borrowed over 2 trillion dollars, in order to disband shia militias? that was the basis of our strategy to eliminate terrorism? and in the meantime al queda is resurgent in pakistan and afghanistan and iran has a new ally in the region…how is that a victory of any kind?
so we lost 4000 troops, and borrowed over 2 trillion dollars, in order to disband shia militias? that was the basis of our strategy to eliminate terrorism? and in the meantime al queda is resurgent in pakistan and afghanistan and iran has a new ally in the region…how is that a victory of any kind? i think you have to re-evaluate this whole fantisizing thing you have going.
sorry for the double post…
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/focusoniraq/2008/April/focusoniraq_April50.xml§ion=focusoniraq
America is begging Iran to negotiate on Iraq, a good sign it is taking Jim Webb’s counsel, if true.
Dippy Dale doesn’t seem to realize,among a myriad of facts, that Shias
have suppressed Bahais methodically in Iran and Iraq whenever possible,, so when he combines the two vis a vis Juan Cole he is merely showing another stripe of his abysmal ignorance.
The fact that Dumbo Dale believes Juan Cole has any influence or indeed that Cole believes he has any influence on Iran’s government shows Dale is as out of touch with reality as the settler rabbis from whom he gets his politics via such traitors as Doug Feith–rabbis who assert one Jewish life is worth more than a thousand Arabs’.
Strata
Wake me when the Peshmerga and the Badr Corps are disbanded.
Norm
Not to worry about his level of discourse, which must be masked in
ad hominem. Dale’s version of “cutting edge” is kinda blunt, since Strata first began predicting imminent victory in Iraq in 2004.
boghie…
jan.07 — troop “surge” announced: 137,000 troops.
oct.07 —troop buildup peaks: 170,000 troops…+20%
mar.08 — necessary troop reductions: 158,000…+15%
end-of-july projection: 140,000…+3000 troops
OOOOOOH! The imbeciles are coming fast and furious now…You can just smell the fear, desperation and panic!
AJ,
I’m glad you didn’t ban any of the nutbags. This is too much fun to see!
I bet these trolls are one person.
Believe it or not, there is a cost to doing nothing. We did nothing about Afghanistan and the cost was 9/11. Now the left likes to act as if there had not been a war in Iraq when there was that it would all have been rainbows and dancing unicorns. I think there would have been a war anyway, only it would have been even costlier.
And btw, the socalled 2 trillion dollar number is a big fat lie.
“We did nothing about Afghanistan and the cost was 9/11
You mean we financed the seminal jihad to oust the Russians from Afghanistan and the cost was 9/11. Don’t you, dear?
And btw, the socalled 2 trillion dollar number is a big fat lie.
Left by Terrye on April 7th, 2008
You’re right Terrye, the 2 TRILLION dollar figure was calculated by an Anti-American Professor from leftist Academia, who figured in the cost of the rise in Oil from the time the war began, until now, as part of the “cost” of the war, when in fact, IF we had never invaded Iraq, Oil would probely be $500 per Barrel now; and in every other respect, the figure has been thoroughly debunked, but Shhhhhsh, don’t tell that to the Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Leftist Nutbags such as “TRUTHISHALF-BAKED”, and “N(W)orm”, they revelle in their ignorance and treason!
AHHHHHHH! I smell Fear and Surrender in the air, must be a couple of Leftist Nutbags around, pleading for anyone, someone to surrender to!
Hey Nutbags, those yellow stains on your legs are Urine, when your bladder involuntarily gives out as you cringe and whimper in fear, everytime you hear a loud noise!
Quick, Relexive Surrender Syndrome….BWAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!
Pelosi has her panties in a bunch just because the most current NIE on Iraq had a cut off date before Basra and doesn’t reflect any of that issue.
Well it’s their law they passed which said when the reports had to be done and how often, and now she complains when they are complying with the law.
Now if they had dragged it a couple of weeks past the due date when stuff wasn’t happening she would also be the first one to the mic to scream about that.
So transparent.
China doesn’t have $7.7 trillion to lend us, Norm.
“…when in fact, IF we had never invaded Iraq, Oil would probely be $500 per Barrel now…” i do not think the word fact means what you think it means. carry on cheerleaders. sis boom bah.
http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/sf/latimes236.htm
Iraqi violence will not be reduced to “normal” until Autumn at earliest, say experts! Many factors/facets of violence including the resurgence of jihadist groups!
Since oil is being driven by china’s and india’s increasing appetites for oil it is clear the current pricing would have hit with or without an Iraq invasion. Another history lesson for the liberals – Iraq’s oil was under tight UN control and not flowing at capacity before we invaded because Saddam was too building palaces. Doh!
AJ, I think you are wrong about the Doomsayers, if they are anything like the Cold Weather Gang of the 70’s, who are now pushing the Global Warming carp. Yes they have to go into exile for awhile and then re-emerge again when the opportunity presents itself.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/130602
Strata claims we brought “freedom” to Iraq, but Newsweek shows Iraqi women are less free than under Saddam.