Feb 13 2009

Socialists Raid Our Treasury During Economic Panic

Published by at 10:07 am under All General Discussions

I have to say that anyone who sat out the last election because McCain was not conservative enough for them is pretty much an idiot. Sorry – but anyone who allowed Obama and the Dems to take control by sitting out the election in a fit is just as responsible for the coming mess as those orchestrating it. The same people who left the immigration mess in place in a fit of Amnesty Hypochondria, seemed to have also now opened the door to the socialist raid on our treasury.

If you don’t get out and vote, you still are making a choice. I heard it enough times to make me sick: “I’d take Clinton over McCain, I’d take Obama over McCain” from the rightward fringes. And now we see what happens when purist conservatives sit back and let socialists run amok.

Karl Rove has come out with a good rundown of how conservatives can ban together and distance themselves from this mess:

They [House Republicans] also wisely put ideas on the table, such as cutting the bottom two income tax rates and small-business taxes while extending unemployment insurance and other safety-net provisions. With these proposals, Republicans generated news and made it possible for their members to be for something that made sense to their voters. 

Over in the Senate, Republicans have likewise followed a “better ideas” strategy. Mitch McConnell pushed to make aid to states loans, not grants, and to cut income taxes for the middle class. Other Republican senators came in with ideas to fix housing, put money in the hands of taxpayers, and cut fat from the stimulus.

While this is all true, the price to our country and our future to finally gain this distinction was high. And does anyone seriously think going around calling the three senators who are working on a compromise ‘traitors’ is going to induce them to listen? The reason why they are doing what they are doing, working with Dems, is because so many loud mouths on the right pushed them out of the coalition. They are doing what they feel is right and representing their constituents – who vote them in with margins.

The problem now is the far left is running amok. While the GOP may be getting some distinction points, the nation is heading back into the big brother government role of the Carter years. For example:

For the first time since 1996, the federal government would begin paying bonuses to states that increase their welfare caseloads. Under the stimulus bills, the federal government will pay 80 percent of cost for each new family that a state enrolls in welfare; this matching rate is far higher than it was under the old AFDC program.

The original goal of promoting employment and self-sufficiency and moving families off long-term dependence on government assistance has been replaced with the perverse incentive of adding more families to the welfare rolls. The House bill provides $4 billion per year to reward states to increase their TANF caseloads; the Senate bill follows the same policy but allocates less money.

For the first time, the federal government will give significant cash to able-bodied adults without dependent children. A major new welfare program in the stimulus bill is Obama’s “Make Work Pay” refundable tax credit. This credit represents a fundamental shift in welfare policy. At a cost of around $23 billion per year, it will provide up to $400 in cash to low income adults who pay no income taxes. Since most of these individuals have little apparent need for assistance, the new credit represents “spreading the wealth” for its own sake.

Decades of conservative progress wiped out in one massive bill of lies. This is not what America wanted. Neither was the far right led GOP Congress of 2004/2006. The problem is the ideologues are killing this nation as they swing from extreme to extreme, ignoring the people.

I have a proposal for the fairness doctrine. Let’s remove the message handlers and spinners and filters and let the people decide. Let’s allocate 4-5 minutes of commercial time out of each news or political show on TV and allow candidates to run unedited spots. We allocate the available slots equally among opposing candidates, and they can use them to their heart’s content. They can make one pitch, or they can make topical pitches,

The point is we need to get the process of government out of the hands of the dysfunctional parties and the news media. It is time for an internet-like revolution in politics.

9 responses so far

9 Responses to “Socialists Raid Our Treasury During Economic Panic”

  1. I R A Darth Aggie says:

    And does anyone seriously think going around calling the three senators who are working on a compromise ‘traitors’ is going to induce them to listen?

    I’d like to know what those 3 are thinking. I’d like to know how they think the porkulus is going to be a positive?

  2. crosspatch says:

    This bill is absolutely despicable. I seem to find myself using that word pretty often to describe Democrats.

    Publish a 1000 page bill hours before a vote is supposed to be held. None of those members of Congress are going to have a chance to read what is in there. Who knows what is buried in that bill.

    This is absolutely crazy and is NOT the way to govern.

  3. WWS says:

    This is the bill which guarantees a second Great Depression.
    It is now unavoidable. Conservatives may make a comeback in the future, but it will be too late. This game is over, this countries fate is sealed.

  4. KauaiBoy says:

    I’d call them 3 senators who will be dead long before the impact of this legislation is fully felt. I guess they are trying to hedge their bets now just in case God has been voting Democrat.

    All in all though this is the benefit of deviant behavior in a society; if you don’t have the common sense to know (or remember) the boundraries of extremism then an occasional swift kick to the knuts is required. Remember this can all be undone and those about to fatten up at the teet of the sow ought to remember that as well; “eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we will die”.

    The 60% of Americans not on the extreme wings do need to act as one though and not allow the others to distract us. Looks like there is a lot of work to be done.

  5. kathie says:

    It was interesting to listen to the black caucus discuss the merits of this bill. In their opinion tho not big enough it begins to give their constitutes the dignity that they deserve, the medical treatment that they have never gotten, unemployment insurance that they so desperately need, homes that have been taken away through foreclosures, jobs and job training to put them to work that they have been denied ( look at unemployed minority numbers), this is a down payment and more will be ask to right the situation.

    Now for me this makes perfect sense. This is exactly what the billions do. It is not for jobs creation for all Americans, or to stimulate the economy for all. It is reparations for all those who have not prospered under capitalism, for those who find themselves jobless and always have, renting, without adequate education, and bad habits. This is a reparations bill disguised as a bill to bring back jobs, build roads etc. IT IS A LIE.

  6. MarkN says:

    It it difficult to have a political revolution with territorial representation of the USA as opposed to the proportional representation of say Israel. You can have many parties that get to be coaliton partners, the two main parties did not even win a majority of seats in the Knesset.

    In the USA a third party that is major (at least 10% of the vote) or super major (at least 20% of the vote) third party would ruin one party’s chances. So there will be a strong force (AJ, do you appreciate my physic’s reference), to pull the third party to one side. One of the major problems with the GOP is the incorporation of the Perot republicans in the 1990s. The problem is that on economic policy Perot was only on board for half of Reagan’s policies. Perot was anti-business (he debated Al Gore on Nafta, the only debate Gore ever won), and he was for loose money.

    The four pillars of conservative economic policy (capitalism, or economic freedom) are:
    1. Low marginal tax rates and simple tax system.
    2. Deregulation of business. Simple and logical regulation regime.
    3. Lower government spending. Less government programs.
    4. Tight monetarty policy.

    One of the Perot legacies is the rejection of illegal immigrants which is an anti-business and anti-conservative stance. If you support economic freedom for goods and services, why not labor? If you support people voting with their feet when leaving communist countries for economic as well as political reasons why not support people voting with their feet on purely economic grounds?

  7. bill says:

    They are Fascists, it’s time to use the real tag.

  8. AJ stop treating the symptoms and start blaming the actual causes of our countries collapse will you.

    With all the fraud and deliberate treason commmited by our elected officials it would not have mattered who won McCain would have only stalled it for maybe another 4 years.
    The subversives have been de-stabilizing our nation with our help for years

    We have been deliberately targetted by our enemies this election and America is arguing whose fault is is.

    Fools, delusional humans ignorant folks can argue that we can fix this within the electoral process.

    NO way. fraud is so rampant without the Purple finger no one will ever know the truth.

    Our Own Supreme court lacks the power to enact any reasonable protection for our rights, Our legislators care not a whit what our will is. And the executive branch iimplements powers to enforce it’s will and retain it’s power.

    Now is the time for force.

    Bin Laden is right, a paper tiger whose time has come.

    How much longer are we going to make him right?

    Soon they will start to register and confiscate the weapons and the idiots will still be complaining it’s the right thing to do.

    Our enemies are implementing the Desruction of this great republic, How much longer do we sit back and let them do it?

    I am not in the mood to wait much longer, what do you think will happen if the real Conservative ( never a majority ) right wing nuts had an armed march on DC?

    Whose side would the military been on?

    Please stop you childish harping an this so called and imagined conservative faults.

    Only a fool, enemy or a liar continues to worry about blame as the fire continues to burn.
    User your intellect to figure out how to fix it.

    The Most powerful nation in the world, Peopled by an abundance of Cowards!

  9. kathie says:

    I think you will all remember this speech, given by Obama. The stimulus package is designed to fulfill this promise and nothing more. Read it again and again, and the truth and this bill will make sense. This is reparations for all the have nots on the backs of those who have worked hard, saved, paid their bills, lived within their means, sent their children to public schools, vacationed in tents in the back yard, volunteered their precious time to those who need help, who paid their medical insurance, car insurance, house note, and who loved their country so much that they chose to fight for anotherss freedom.

    Obama says…..
    I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people… I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal… This was the moment — this was the time — when we came together to remake this great nation…