Jan 05 2008

Can Giuliani Steal 3rd In NH? Is Clinton Toast?

Published by at 10:02 pm under 2008 Elections,All General Discussions

According to the latest CNN/WMUR poll results one possible outcome for the GOP race in NH is McCain 1st, Romney 2nd and Giulian 3rd (with Huckabee 4th and Fred Thompson out for the count). That would be huge for Giuliani heading into the big states like FL and CA were he has a more commanding lead. It would hurt Romney (again) and Huckabee as well.

The same polls shows Clinton coming in a distant 2nd to Obama – which should seal her another VP slot (does anyone think Gore did anything important under Clinton?). One poll, I know. But some polls are closer than others.

13 responses so far

13 Responses to “Can Giuliani Steal 3rd In NH? Is Clinton Toast?”

  1. ivehadit says:

    I thought Rudy was great tonight in the debates. He gives me confidence that things *will* get done under his leadership.

  2. winwin123 says:

    I have been watching the ABC NH debate, Charlie Gibson the moderator. “Hillary Clinton just had a Howard Dean moment in the debate”, she got to the point where she almost started screaming, on a question of healthcare, where she claims she was the reason for creating the childrens health insurance program (CHIP), read the following excerpt from Dick Morris, President Bill Clintons political advisor, ” Bill says: “Hillary didn’t succeed at getting health care for all Americans in 1994 but she kept working at it and helped to
    create the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) that provides five million children with health insurance.”

    The facts are: Hillary had nothing to do with creating CHIP. It
    was included in the budget deal between Clinton and Republican Majority Leader Senator Trent Lott. I know; I helped to negotiate the deal. The money came half from the budget deal and half from the Attorney Generals’ tobacco settlement. Hillary had nothing to do with either source of funds. ” by Dick Morris…. A bynote Hillary said in the debate “they”
    shot a couple of missiles to try and get Osama bin Laden, Why didnt anybody call her on the news report of when Sudans’ government offered them” the Bill Clinton and Hillarys administration” Osama bin Laden when the Sudanese government had him in custody back in 1997 and they didnot take Sudan up on there offer? Amazing, WOW the 2 faces of hillary. Do we really want her as President? P.S.- Barack Hussein Obama, John Mccain and John Edwards kicked a_s in there debates.

  3. MerlinOS2 says:

    Last time around McCain got 40% of his support from independents in NH

    Obama, and Edwards will take a bunch of that in the anybody but Hillary side for the dems and Paul will attract the looney independents and libertarians.

    All this will cut into McCain support.

  4. MerlinOS2 says:

    NH is so far left Fred is only showing up to the debate for national exposure , he is not going to beat his head against the wall in a stupid fight.

    He will be in SC instead.

    In other news Wyoming Caucus

    91% report

    Mitt 8 delegates
    Fred 2
    Hunter 1

    Still 1 to be decided yet.

  5. Terrye says:

    I think Rudy might pull it off. I doubt if Huckabee really expects to do anything in NH. He might have a shot at Michigan or SC. I am not sure he will really do that much beyond Iowa. I just hope the people out there who went off the deep end because he won Iowa will tone down the rhetoric. We need every vote we can get. I think there is a good chance a Democrat will win.

  6. WWS says:

    Thompson has turned out to be a remarkably poor campaigner, which should finish his campaign pretty soon. I kn0w that it seems that he hasn’t been treated well by the media, but why couldn’t Thompson do what Huckabee did? I don’t like Huckabee much, but I gotta give him credit for finding a way to sneak out a win when nobody thought he was anything but an als0-ran. I don’t think Thompson has ever run a really hard-fought campaign in his life, and it’s showing.

    More and more, it looks like Rudy’s the guy – and that’s just fine by me!

  7. MerlinOS2 says:


    I don’t know how strong it is but a lot of blogs in their comments have Fred picking up as the at least best compromise candidate because of all the perceived faults of the others.

    He is on track for his donation target for SC. Don’t count him out to early.

    Just an observation , I haven’t picked anyone yet.

  8. Terrye says:

    I thought Fred looked bored tonight.

    And Huckabee was quiet. Ron Paul was insane. As always.

    I have not picked anyone yet either.

    You know when they started that talk about the pharma companies I realize that everyone thinks that is just demagoguery. But I have a client, he is in his 50’s and terminal. He is on medicaid because the health care costs have ruined him. His medicines run $4,000 a month. A month! no one can pay those kind of costs, they are out of control. I honestly do not know what the answer is, but it is a real problem for people.

  9. owl says:

    Can Rudy steal 3rd? It would have to be a steal because from what I have observed, all the forces aligned against him decided to do the MSM’s Silence.

    The blog comments picking up on Fred because he really is the vanilla that we can all agree to agree. But he can’t win.

    I picked my candidate (Rudy) because he had a record of doing the impossible in the middle of enemy territory. Results matter to me.

    Terrye, after Ron Paul/Tancredo, I personally dislike Huckabee but that is not why I am so deadset against him. He was chosen and given to us by the MSM. I object to having a liberal media choose the GOP candidate. They also really want Obama to be the candidate because they think he can win. I happen to agree. The mistake everyone is making is discounting The Voice. It does not matter what his political positions, you only hear the sound. It sounds like JFK. Like it or lump it, it’s truth.

    I know that Huckabee talks the everyday common people issues, like the example you gave on the cost of meds. I hear it. It’s true. I emailed the WH about it in 2002. Some Americans fall through the cracks and not the cracks we hear about. There is a hole for anyone that happens to fall into it for people in their 50’s. The GOP has always been tone deaf. Bush certainly did not cure the problem but at least he addressed one problem and managed to get it into law. That was all and beyond anything within his power. Listen to the cussing still going on.

    Btw, if my choice comes down to Obama or Huck? I do not stay home because that is the easy way out. I dislike Huck but I vote Huck. But I sure would like to feel I had a small chance of winning. Anyone that thinks Huck (or almost any of the field) can beat Obama, raise their hands. I never trash Hillary because we need a Hillary/Rudy race. Desperately. The MSM understands this on a gut level, therefore their collective response.

  10. Klimt says:

    I think we could defeat Obama because it’s hard to imagine people voting for someone who has no experience and placing them at the head of the United States. It’s just too much. Obama would be a perfect VP candidate where he could get experience. Hillary is the one to fear. I think she could pull it off. That’s why you may find me insidiously encamped in the Obama crowd cheering his name. Go Obama!

  11. Terrye says:


    No Huckabee was not chosen and given to us by the MSM. For heavens sake give the voters some credit. The man wins one election in Iowa and people go off the deep end.

    Huckabee was a Governor of a southern state. I like Rudy but he was the mayor of NYC, these guys are representative of where they came from. Huckabee won in Iowa by reaching out to church groups and other grass roots efforts.

    you know Reagan said that the Republican party needed to seek out social conservatives, not just for their votes, but for leadership and candidate positions as well. I guess some Republicans just want these guys to keep their mouths shut and vote a straight R ticket. It does not work that way.

    I don’t think Huckabee can win in the long run. But I have to admit I have been more than a little disgusted by the reaction some people have had to him.

  12. Terrye says:

    BTW, I doubt very much if those Republican voters in Iowa care what the MSM says.

  13. owl says:

    Sorry, I am not very good at expressing what I really think. I agree that the Huck voters do not give 2 cents for the MSM and probably dislike it. I am not a conspiracy nut that believes the MSM all meet in a back room or they all receive their marching orders from the DNC. But I am and have been a MSM Watcher and agree with the book BIAS. It is real and the only force that allows the DNC to remain in power. Today’s Dems would be gone tomorrow if they did not have the MSM doing their work.

    And no, I will not give them any more credit than I did the OJ jury. Blind is blind and just because I am not capable of explaining what I observed in the media, does not make it not true. I watched it happen. Do I think Huck will be our candidate? No. Do I think the MSM thinks Obama is a winner? Yes. Do I think it is possible for Obama to be the ultimate winner. Yes. And Rudy? One of the few times I agree with George Will, he put his finger on math today about why we need the North. Yep.