Feb 21 2007

Fly By 02/21/07

Published by at 8:16 am under All General Discussions,Fly By

Quick and to the point this morning. Libby will be acquitted in a very short deliberation.

OK, with that out of the way, let’s turn to John Edward’s continued spiral down the toilet. First he hires, fires, rehires and refires (for – against, for – against, perfect Kerry running mate) liberal bloggers who had no business trying to represent the mainstream of America they regularly insulted like high school gossips talk about their opponents. Now he is out to diss the Jewish base of the democrat party, calling Isreal the greatest threat against world peace. I guess a nuclear armed Islamo Fascist insane asylum which pretends the holocaust never happened and openly claims the end of Isreal is near is not enough of a threat for Edwards. One wonders how he plans to deal with African Americans and ‘Sister Soldjah’ them?

The southern section of Iraq is nearly as peaceful as the Kurdish areas of Iraq, so the UK is drawing down forces in the process of handover to the Iraqis. It will be measured and tested and assured a successful outcome. Of course the media is claiming this is a surrender and should be a model for a US pullout. Fine, when Iraq is as peaceful as the Shia southern regions under British control we should strongly consider pulling our forces out – but not before then. There, the is now debate over. Dems, deal with it.

On the same note, Dick Cheney torpedoes the Democrats by demanding the US withdrawl from Iraq “with honor” (i.e., because of success). Which means the dems want to leave Iraq with dishonor. Hard to argue that point. Something must be showing up in the polls. The Dems tried to surrender too early, too hard. He and Bush are showing amazing confidence in our troops – and that is a serious political price to pay for the Dems to oppose that confidence.

It seems our enemies in war will not be treated with civil legal protections after all (as if they ever have been in our entire history). A federal appeals court has decided those who attack our laws with violent force from outside our country cannot then run and try to receive protection from the very laws they wish to destroy. Duh! War is the absence of law requiring abnormal actions not normally legal.

And a leading Russian claims Berezovsky killed Litvinenko with Po-210. Wonder why he is saying that now? (Possibly more on this later).

Hope everyone has a great day!

80 responses so far

80 Responses to “Fly By 02/21/07”

  1. lassoingtruth says:

    Lurker

    Hans Blix was the ultimate determiner of UN 1441,not Bush.
    And he said Saddam was complying, attempting to prove a
    negative while Bush had an already determined policy of war.

  2. lassoingtruth says:

    Lurker

    You didn’t notice Bush Sr. attempted to assassinate Saddam
    in the fallout shelter in Baghdad and killed 400 innocent
    Iraqis? Be careful what criteria you use for war.

  3. lassoingtruth says:

    Lurker

    On the Shia South you don’t know what you are talking about.
    Many Brit officers are on record as admitting the loss of trust of the people since circa 2004. The original Bush plan was to impose
    a US /Israel ally government in Iraq. The militias which resisted
    UK implementation of that plan have no use for America as an
    ally. They are pro-Iranian to one degree or another. The
    comparative “peace” that exists in the South is not a pro-America
    peace.
    Then again a liar like you who depicts the ongoing guerrilla
    war as a “three week war” cares nothing about political
    or economic reality.

  4. lurker9876 says:

    Hehehe, got you all rankled, huh?

    There are TWO wars, you cracker and liar. The war against Iraq is to invade Iraq and topple Saddam. The war in Iraq against Global Jihadism is ongoing and far more difficult.

    How long did it take for Thomas Jefferson to win the early war against Global Jihadism? 15 years.

    Wow, the rest of the comments in your posts warrant are filled with stupidity that they deserve ignorance.

  5. lassoingtruth says:

    Lurker

    Americans rejected the Iraq War linkage with the war on terror years ago as a Bush ploy.

  6. lurker9876 says:

    Are you serious?!?!?!?!?

    Check the recent poll:

    Real Americans aren’t losers, but Democrats are

    You are a sore loser.

    You chose to ignore Jveritas’s translated documents:

    Read before you make a comment like that again:

    Jveritas documents

  7. lurker9876 says:

    Those captured Iraqi documents, among other sources and authenticated by other sources, showed strong link between Saddam and AQ /terrorism. Saddam had every intent to build WMDs once those sanctions were lifted and attack America.

    Read the 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act:

    1998 Iraqi Liberation Act

    Read Clinton’s letter in regards to the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act:

    Clinton Signs Iraq Liberation Act

    Never a Bush Ploy.

  8. Soothsayer says:

    Lurker – did you skip Logic 101?

    once those sanctions were lifted

    And what if the sanctions weren’t lifted??

    Checkmate.

  9. lurker9876 says:

    No, I did not skip Logic 101. There were efforts within United Nations to get those sanctions lifted. Saddam had been bribing the members of the UN Security Council to get those sanctions lifted.

    And if those sanctions weren’t lifted, then we will be paying millions and millions of dollars per year for many years (20 years plus) to enforce the no-fly zone. Are you willing to pay for that for twenty years plus?

    No checkmate. I won!

  10. Soothsayer says:

    Oh, geeze – now its Remedial Math you need help with:

    if those sanctions weren’t lifted, then we will be paying millions and millions of dollars per year for many years (20 years plus) to enforce the no-fly zone.

    20 years x One Billion Dollars (forget the “million and millions) per year= $20,000,000,000.00

    Invasion of Iraq = $1,000,000,000,000.00 to $2,000,000,000,000.00

    Which is more costly?

    Not to mention 3,500 dead US troops and 30,000 wounded. A strengthened al-Qaeda. Waste of resources/no capture of bin Laden. Loss of allies. Enmity of 1,800,000,000 Muslims.

  11. lurker9876 says:

    Oh, give me a break!!!

    I am only comparing against the 3 week war against Iraq. Not the war in Iraq against Global Jihadism.

    The enforcement of the no-fly zone year after year would end up being costly if those sanctions were not lifted and we did not invade Iraq to topple Saddam.

    And what about this?

    Military Death Stats

    And

    “Heros and Cowards”

    bin Laden has been weakened, btw. AQ is dying inside Iraq. It took Thomas Jefferson fifteen to win against Barbary Islamic Pirates. So???

  12. lurker9876 says:

    Oh, give me a break!!

    I am comparing the numbers against the 3-week war against Iraq to topple Saddam. Nothing more. Therefore, the no-fly zone cost far more than the 3 week war.

    If those sanctions were not lifted and we did not invade Iraq to topple Saddam, we would be spending millions and millions of dollars enforcing the no-fly zone. Who were the allies helping us enforce the no-fly zone while Clinton was in the office? United Kingdom!

    And what about these military stats (in addition to the number of casualties in the wars of the past):

    Military Death Stats

    and


    “Heros and Cowards”

    bin Laden has been weakened. AQ is dying inside Iraq. Of course, they’re supposedly building up and preparing for some spring surge but they won’t win that one.

    Nope, no waste of resources. Time will capture bin Laden or find him dead somewhere.

    It took Thomas Jefferson fifteen years to win the war against those Barbary Islamic Pirates. Thomas Jefferson went to war against those Barbary Pirates without any allies. Thomas Jefferson and his country faced the enmity of millions of Muslims. So???

    I won!

  13. lurker9876 says:

    Give me a break!!

    I am comparing the costs between the no-fly zone and the 3 week war against Iraq to topple Saddam. The no-fly zone enforcement cost far more than the 3 week war against Iraq.

    And what about these military stats:

    Military Death Stats

    and

    “Heros and Cowards”

  14. lurker9876 says:

    It took Thomas Jefferson fifteen years to win against the Barbary Islamic Jihadists. And without allies along with enmity from millions of Muslims.

    When we were enforcing the no-fly zone against Iraq while Clinton was in the office, how many allies were with us? Only one! United Kingdom!

    Re: Military stats: 1) The casualties of the wars of the pasts are far more than the current casualties of this war against Global Jihadism. 2) The number of deaths in this country exceed the number of casualties of this war against Global Jihadism.

  15. lurker9876 says:

    Regarding military death stats: 1) The number of casualties of the wars of the pasts combined makes the current casualty numbers seem minimal. 2) The number of deaths, accidental or caused by crime, far exceed the current casualty numbers.

  16. lurker9876 says:

    When Thomas Jefferson went to war against the Barbary Islamic Jihads, he went alone without allies along with enmity from millions of Muslims.

    When we enforced the no-fly zones while Clinton was in the office, how many allies did we have? Only one! That’s United Kingdom!

  17. lurker9876 says:

    When Clinton went to war against Kosovo without permission from Congress, how many allies?

  18. lurker9876 says:

    This report provides counter to the IG’s criticism of Feith’s office. Pretty well rips it to shreds and embarrasses the IG.

    Review of the pre-Iraqi war activities by the DOD Office of the IG.

  19. Dc says:

    I might just mention, that US troops in SA (for Gulf1 as well as continually after to monitor the no-fly-zones) was one of the bullet points highlighted in Osama Bin Laden’s original “Fatwa” against the US.

  20. lassoingtruth says:

    In 2001, right until 9/11, Condi Rice and Colin Powell told the world at press conferences when asked, Saddam was contained, “in a box” and a threat to no one. Had maybe a few degraded weapons of no consequence. Were they stupid then or was there lying thereafter?
    (rhetorical)

    Lurker’s use of “jihads” to describe pirates disqualifies his argument.
    As to military deaths, Lurker, if Americans had the “will” to
    stay in Iraq as long as it would take to “finish the (your) job, you’re
    dealing with Vietnam stats.