Nov 09 2016

Those “Fictional” Stealth Trump Voters – They Do Exist!

Turnout models – the bane of the polling industry! Sort of like climate models, lots of supposition and wish-casting, but when placed against reality they fall apart.

The reason the pollsters got it wrong this election cycle is they cannot see outside the frame of the Political Industrial Complex (PIC)*.

Heaven help us if they could every figure that out!

My guess is the true impact of yesterday will take a year or so to sink into the denizens of the PIC. Here is one example why:

Pollsters and election modelers suffered an industry-shattering embarrassment at the hands of Donald Trump on Tuesday night.

Trump had long said the polls were biased against him. His claims – dismissed and mocked by the experts – turned out to be true.

White working class voters — the silent majority that Trump said was being underestimated by pollsters — swarmed for him on Election Day, particularly in the Rust Belt states, and helped him beat the polls.

Clinton could not turn out women, or the Obama coalition of minorities and young voters, in the same numbers to keep pace.

Pollster John Zogby believes that many in the industry weighted their polls too heavily in favor of Democrats, pointing to polls that had an 8 to 9 point advantage for the party, when it should have been in the 4 to 5 point range, he said.

It’s a claim that Trump made throughout the process.

But pollsters largely dismissed that notion, saying that Democrats turn out in larger numbers in a presidential election year and that Republicans were losing registered voters, who were increasingly identifying as independents.

That assumption will have to be reexamined.

Captain Obvious on that last sentence. Let’s see how long they need to ponder this one!

The data on what was happening was there for anyone to see. I tracked Florida for weeks and saw the massive uptick in energy across the board – which was not the Clinton Get-Out-The-Vote machine. The wave was clearly visible, the pundits just ignored it.

The problem is the elites refuse to understand the damage their idiotic policies created on Main Street, mainly because they refuse to live on Main Street. The denizens of the PIC live in isolation

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, only interacting with themselves, unwilling to look beyond their gated communities, their parties, their media events and all their other side shows. They just pat each other on the back and do stints on TV with their pals in the news media.

I feel no sorrow for them. The are wealthy and will remain wealthy. They just need to go find a hobby or something, since running the government for We The People is just not in their wheel house.

* The Political Industrial Complex encompasses all those elites whose livelihoods are predicated on central-control of resources and who determine who is allowed to succeed in society. It is a bipartisan exclusive club. It includes the Politicians and their career staffers. It includes crony donors and lobbyists who reap government windfalls and special treatment that average citizens cannot obtain. It includes the PIC industrial base of pollsters, consultants, etc. And it includes the pliant news media, whose success rest on access to those in power, and in return for access making sure no bad news will disrupt said power.

10 responses so far

10 Responses to “Those “Fictional” Stealth Trump Voters – They Do Exist!”

  1. oneal lane says:

    I am getting varied results on electorial maps. The ones updated for this morning show different stories on who won VA, CO. PA.

    RCP does not even post a results map.

    Am I missing something?

  2. oneal lane says:

    Wait a minute!!!

    Clinton is winning the popular vote! Lets not all start crowing about some monumental voter turnout or change. Trump is winning on how the votes are distributed, not total number.

    Now I am glad he is winning, don’t get me wrong, but lets stay rooted in the truth, and reality. She so far has won the popular vote. That does not speak to voter rebellion.


  3. oneal lane says:

    Clinton was insane to concede so early, she has the popular vote, and the recorded vote in so many of the state Trump won is razor thin. I would have at least had recounts in these states and wait for the final tally.

    Actually Podesta was correct last night. Many states were too close to call. He told everyone to go home and wait until morning. She gave up too soon. Good! Trump would not have given up so easily.


  4. AJStrata says:

    Turnout was huge. So this is the will of the voters – which is why she conceded. He has too many electoral votes in too many states

  5. oneal lane says:


    He picked up Alaska and Michigan, just Minnesota and NH left?


  6. oneal lane says:

    RCP still does not display a post election map.

  7. oneal lane says:

    Boy did we get lucky!!

    OK guys and gals here from Fox News is a breakdown of popular vote.

    There is a lot of crowing about this “monumental movement” and “historic shift” …. and so on. Baloney! Hillary won the popular vote, she is ahead by over 150,000 votes. Trump won because of where his votes showed up not the number of votes. More people in America voted for the leftist agenda than Trumps. We were lucky! It could have easily gone the other way.

    Trump received less votes than McCain and less than Romney, and
    Hillary received less than Obama in 04 and 08. The nation stands divided but somewhat leftist.

    I don’t like admitting this but the GOP has not won a decisive Presidential election since 1988.


  8. Chikung69 says:

    Right– but imagine the uphill battle. The map has forever changed thanks to porous borders. GA may be a battleground and go purple next time due to placing immigrants. This isn’t a knock on lawful immigration. But VA is gone. Texas will be gone in years. Make no mistake, this year was a Far left Democrat vs. Democrat lite.
    Trump adopted the GOP (or co-opted).
    This was probably the last chance at something like this–a chance to send a message to the elite establishment.

    I shudder for the future generations.

    Brightside: I won my FL, NC, and PA bets and Trump as overall winner.
    Waiting on NH and lost CO. Angry I accidentally put CO in twice when I meant to hit the MI bet.

    Thanks for your work AJ. It certainly helped me point my cash in the right direction.

  9. Mike M. says:

    Ah, but the immigration calculus has changed. Trump is taking over with a mandate to cut or legal immigration, and eject the illegals. Impose honest elections, too. And next time, the GOP won’t be running a candidate with half the party out to cut his throat.

    And Trump himself has become a far, far better campaigner than he was even three months ago. He’ll never have Reagan’s polished majesty, but he has learned very quickly.

  10. oneal lane says:

    If he succeeds with his intent, Trump will probably do more to help Latinos and Blacks than Obama. Thus it is conceivable that he reshape the electorate. (I think the received higher minority votes than GOP before?)