Sep 28 2009

Public Rejecting Obamacare, Will Reject Democrats

No one can argue that the liberal left is limited in imagination. The ideas and myths they conjure up border on the insane. From believing Bush and Cheney were listening in on their lame ramblings, to the Chicken Little cries of doom over global warming after a decade of global cooling, they have some created some wild theories – that is to be sure.

But one of their strangest delusions is the idea that the public booted them out of control of Congress in 1994 because they failed to be too far left and pass far left legislation. The idiocy of that thinking is just astounding. Its just like the far right claiming the nation booted them from power in 2006-2008  because it wanted MORE far right policies and insults. Bizarre thinking to say the least.

It’s downright embarrassing to watch this madness unfold. Has anyone thought out the fact that if the nation wanted more far left (or far right) policies they wouldn’t vote in the opposition to get it??? Was the GOP in 1994 or the Dems in 2008 going to suddenly pass everything they spent years opposing once in power? Who thinks these things up  (and worse, who believes them!)?

The aging liberal dinosaurs now in senior positions in Congress think the country wants government rationed health care. They don’t really think the 70% of us happy with our current coverage will care if they take it away from us and charge us a lot more for a lot less. In another one of those delusional mad moments, the Liberals think the one universal complaint about health care (i.e., high costs) means we WANT to pay more for less care! Yeah, that’s the ticket.

Add to the list of health care delusions a one more incoherency. As we all know health care is expensive and not available to all. What people supported was ideas on how to  make health care more available. But no one in the wildest dreams expected us to ration the care to our beloved seniors in order to expand care to illegal aliens. I know the Libs love to play Robin Hood, but really – get serious!

Does anyone in the Democrat Party see the political ad blitzkrieg coming their way ion 2010 and 2012. Some simple examples:

  1. “America wanted premier health care at lower cost, but President Obama and The Democrats passed government rationed  health care at much higher costs to everyone. Now insurance plans are taxed, drugs are taxed, medical equipment is taxed. Can we afford 2 more (4 more) years of this? Get back your premium health care, vote against the Democrat madness.”
  2. “Americans are a generous people, so when the issue of health care availability came up they were all for expanding coverage to those who needed it. But instead of fixing the rules about pre-conditions and stopping the practice of throwing people out of coverage when they needed it most, the democrats raided the Medicare plans of seniors and took their services to cover people here in this country illegally. Did America really want to take from the elderly to give to those here without permission? Vote against the Democrats in 2008”.

I mean a 3rd grader could devastate the Democrats with this stuff blind folded. And guess what, the nation is completely receptive to this kind of message – since these statements reflect reality, not delusions based on twisted logic. They are angry at the over reaching and preaching. The Town Halls of August were just the start, just a glimpse into where America is going.

Rassmussen has a poll out today that would normally be ringing warning bells on the left to stop their risky proposals. Some key numbers:

Just 41% of voters nationwide now favor the health care reform proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. …

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 56% are opposed to the plan.

If these were numbers for candidates in a district or state, the team on the 56% side would be looking like a shoe-in. Update: Meant to add this link to a left leaning pollster who recently admitted the tide was turning on the Dems, with a possible 53-47% popular vote edge for the GOP. Imagine his view if 53-47% was the bright end of the possible outcomes – end update

There are some other numbers that indicate health care very well could be a force in the next round of congressional elections.

In the latest survey, just 33% of seniors favor the plan while 59% are opposed. The intensity gap among seniors is significant. Only 16% of the over-65 crowd Strongly Favors the legislation while 46% are Strongly Opposed.

This group votes in large numbers. By 3-1 they are ready to go out and smack down the liberal foolishness. Raiding Medicare (yes Dems, Medicare Advantage is Medicare, and there are cuts in Medicare A/B payments as well) to pay for those without coverage was a dumb idea. Of course, the whole thing is a dumb idea, but targeting Medicare was dumb-squared.

But wait, there’s more!

Currently, among all voters 23% Strongly Favor the legislative effort and 43% are Strongly Opposed.

… Currently 75% of Democrats favor the plan. Seventy-nine percent (79%) of Republicans are opposed, as are 72% of the unaffiliated.

My word, those are shocking numbers. By nearly 2-1 the intensity of opposition swamps support – among all voters (not just ‘likely voters’). That means the voter who is most likely to get out and vote is the one in opposition – twice as likely.

And look at the independents – 72% opposition. I would not want to be running for any office from any party if I was proposing large, central policies opposed by 72% of the independents. Even dems in safe districts better watch out with those levels discontent.

If you combine the forces rally in opposition it is amazing, and makes 1994 look pale by comparison. The intensity is on the side of the opposition by 2-1, seniors are lined up to vote in opposition by 3-1, and the independents oppose the measures by 3-1. Those 48 Democrats in districts won by Bush and McCain better realize one thing – a vote for Obamacare is a vote for their early retirement.

And yet the Liberal Democrats in DC keep running off their delusional cliff expecting all the lemmings in the Congress and News Media to follow them. Have we ever seen the like before?

Update: The GOP is emerging as the protector of seniors health care and Medicare – because they really are!

It’s a lonely battle. The hospital associations, AARP and other powerful interest groups that usually howl over Medicare cuts have also switched sides. Last week, they stood silent as the Senate Finance Committee debated a plan to slice more than $400 billion over the next decade from Medicare, the revered federal insurance program for people over 65, and Medicaid, which also serves many seniors.

More political ad material. The Dems went with the fat cats, the GOP stayed with the people.

Update: Reader WWS notes a WSJ article out today illustrating the madness of moving the nation onto Medicaid (which is the ultimate goal of government rationed health care). Isn’t Medicare one of those out of control programs that will fail in a few years? Talk about being shoved out of the pan and into the fire! No thanks DC, I like the health care WE researched and purchased.

28 responses so far

28 Responses to “Public Rejecting Obamacare, Will Reject Democrats”

  1. AJStrata says:


    Yes, but my point was in 1994 it really blunted the blow back the Dems faced last time.

  2. ivehadit says:

    My intuition says that there is massive amounts of hankey pankey (read voter fraud) prepared for next year’s elections.

    The democrats could not be this suicidal.

    Between ACORN, the unions, the community organizers, and the Secretaries of State (see Al Franken’s state for example) move.on, kos, elections could not be more corrupt, imho. Something is up…just not quite sure exactly how it will play out.

  3. WWS says:

    For Rick C – I see the same risk as you do. But note such things as the House members today who came out in favor of adding illegal alien coverage to the bill.

    Our greatest hopes is that the Congressional Dems are too incompetent to bring this off, even though they should be able to. I know, you hate to pin your hopes on the failures of others, but with this bunch it is a very real possibility.

  4. Toes192 says:

    Little old 71 year old me again… Dunno what’s so hard to understand that somewhat well-to-do seniors like myself should pay higher premiums for basic Medicare.. [currently $96.40/mo.] What do you youngsters pay?…
    Not a complete solution but not a nothing either on the health care front…
    Otherwise, we Seniors are just moochers who got on the dole and don’t want to give it up…
    Tx very much… I’ve got mine and f**k you youngsters…

  5. ivehadit says:

    Amazingly on cue, here is this headline from gatewaypundit: “Figures. ACORN Was Behind Franken’s Stolen Senate Seat”

    FTA:”Secretary of State Mark Ritchie assures us that Minnesota’s system of voter verification protects electoral integrity.

    But here’s an uncomfortable fact: Ritchie himself was endorsed by the now-notorious ACORN and elected with its help.”

    THIS is what alarms me, among other things.

  6. >“the economy was booming”
    >Up until his last year in office. By the time Bush took office in
    >January, the tech implosion was in full swing.


    >Yes, but my point was in 1994 it really blunted the blow back
    >the Dems faced last time.

    If unemployment is 8.5% or higher in 2012, Democrats won’t be able to cheat big enough to make a difference at the state level in Red or Purple states.

    The Democrats are going out of their way to destroy America’s economic health in every sector.

    The real question is whether they will do enough damage by 2012 to tube Federal tax revenues and force a huge inflation for who ever wins via unbacked & over printed money.

  7. >Besides, do they honestly think this treatment will intimidate
    >Ross into supporting the “public option?” What do you think?

    It depends on whether Ross gets a well funded leftie Democratic primary opponent in 2009-10.

  8. It appears that the Obama policy people are completely ignoring their big business economic advisors because they are guilty of being big busnessmen.
    I’m told that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and chief economic adviser Lawrence Summers have both complained to senior Wall Street execs that they have almost no say in major policy decisions. Obama economic counselor Paul Volcker, the former Fed chairman, is barely consulted at all on just about anything — not even issues involving the banking system, of which he is among the world’s leading authorities.
    Obama, according to Wall Street people who regularly deal with his economic and budget officials, is acting as if he has a blank check to do what he wants, while ignoring the longterm costs of his policies.
    As one CEO of a major financial firm told me: “The economic guys say that when they explain the costs of programs, the policy guys simply thank them for their time and then ignore what they say.”
    In other words, the economic people feel that they have almost no say in this administration’s policy decisions.

    If Wall Street wanted a “Clinton Democrat” they should have supported Hillary.
    They didn’t, and now those inside the Administration are busy telling those outside it they are not responsible for Obama’s economic policy decisions.
    Fools & their money are soon parted.
    It appears the line of Wall Street & Big Business fools is rather long.