Dec 29 2008

“Real Conservatives” Are A Lost Cause, How The Dems Can Succeed

Published by at 12:12 pm under All General Discussions


I tell you what, the conservative movement is now totally destroyed. Some idiot running for RNC chairman took a sweet child’s song and twisted it into an ugly, racist, turd of supposed humor:

The sending of a Christmas greeting by Chip Saltsman to the members of the Republican National Committee that includes a recording of the so-called parody, “Barack the Magic Negro” is not only offensive, it is shocking and saddening in the extreme. It flies in the face of America’s deeply held hope for a new era in which common ground and mutual respect characterize the exchanges between our national leaders.

I and my co-writer of “Puff,” Lenny Lipton, have been eagerly awaiting an end to the mean-spiritedness, outright disrespect and bigotry that was commonplace prior to this last presidential election. What might have been wearily accepted as “the way it was” in the campaign, is now unacceptable. Obama is not a candidate. He is the President-Elect, and this song insults the office of the Presidency, the people who voted for him, as well as those who did not — and taking a children’s song and twisting it in such vulgar, mean-spirited way, is a slur to our entire country and our common agreement to move beyond racism.

Ideological idiots. Obama is very popular and now respected, and this stunted adult goes off in a fit of 3rd grade thinking and tarnishes the brand of conservatism that Reagan and the Bush’s had turned into a respectable political movement. With this muck sticking to the word ‘conservative’ I will not be associated with the movement anymore. I have limits to what I will tolerate and this is well beyond it. This guy needs to be marched off the public square.

It would seem the GOP and its extremist wing have a generation of growing up to do before they are ready for prime time and leadership again. I see no path to salvation with the current crop of haters. From the obsession with Obama’s middle name to this scum-duggery, the right has completely self-destructed. Unless the GOP treats haters like this (and Savage, and Levin and others) like their close cousin David Duke and disavows them their tolerance for what is wrong is just intolerable for most Americans. 

Now, with the GOP and the extreme conservatives basically a lost cause, here is how the Democrats can gain lasting control of the political stage in America. Basically shed the liberal and leftist demons and come clean, and you will have the center of America for decades to come. Here’s my list of actions the Dems could take to push the right out of play for a long, long time:

  1. Accept Iraq as a hard fought victory. Give up on blaming Bush for having tough challenges and a determined enemy. al Qaeda declared Iraq the prime battlefield of the war with the West and lost. Noe only militarily but it lost the hearts and minds of the Muslim Street. In 2001 al Qaeda was the future of Islam on the Muslim Street. Today it is the Enemy of Islam. Build on this.
  2. Accept Al Gore is a scientific idiot. The world economy is in a shambles. Much of this was predicted as the Baby Boomers go from producers to consumers as they transition into retirement. The world cannot afford to invest trillions into crack pot mumbo-jumbo about Global Warming. We will have decades of economic challenges as the US market contracts with the retirement wave of Boomers. Give up on Global Warming and move to real issues, like saving the Rain Forests and Whales, etc.
  3. Forget about soaking the rich. We all want to be rich. Reduce the burden of government because we are going to be taking on a huge burden of aging Boomers. Make room by cutting government.
  4. Don’t allow factories of young humans to be harvested for spare parts. Realize that the Adult Stem Cell options are outperforming Embryonic Stem Cell path (which has produced zilch so far – unless you count tumors and cancers). Show respect for life while preserving the right of parents and mothers to decide their own medical issues.

Really, four simple adjustments away from the liberal fringe and the center-left could hold for years and years. Especially given how bankrupt the right has become. One thing the left cannot afford to do is become impotent. That is what destroyed the conservative coalition. Years of getting nothing done (but plenty of screaming and blaming and demeaning comments) was the death knell of the conservative movement.

America surely doesn’t need more than that. For the sake of the people and this country I hope the Dems, with their newly acquired control, make things better. But to do so they need to moderate their own extremists. The current economic stress will not support radical liberal policies. Best to dump those ideas right now.

Addendum: I have to expand on this because of the lame excuses I have been reading in the comment section about this crap. Some are trying to claim this bile is OK because some racist liberal started the theme in the LA Times. Sorry, that is a load of crap. From what I am learning once the theme was established Limbaugh and one of his small-minded racists friends decided to expand on the theme and make the full up parody, with the excuse that the LA Times piece gave them license to be as idiotic as the LA Times.

Here’s the difference between Repulse-icans like Limbaugh and his KKK ‘song writer’ and me. If I had read the LA Times piece I would have been just as disgusted and repulsed as I am now. I would not see one racist schmuck’s efforts as a green light to let out my own extended version of racist muck. If Johnny jumps off the bridge could all like minded jerks please follow!

These excuses, that the bad behavior is OK because someone on the left behaved badly, are pathetic. All these faux patriot, who love and respect America more than any others, can’t seem to muster any of their love and respect for the President-elect. You don’t have to support him or even like him. You do have to respect the office and this country.

This is so over the line I am ready to shutter this website. It is just beyond the pale. The mentality surrounding this is that of an electronic mob, where all boundaries of civility, maturity, responsibility and respect have gone out the window and have been replaced by hate. How far a jump is it from the electronic mob to a real mob, and all its threats to life and liberty? How far is the jump from any form of mob-think to lynch mob-think? If all the rules of decency and respect are gone, how long until the rules of law are thrown out as well?

The more people try to excuse this crap the more they repulse me. There is no excuse. There is no way to tolerate this. All I see is a bunch of insecure whities trying to keep ‘the man’ down by playing on Obama’s race. President-elect Obama has enough challenges to face and personal limitations as it is. Race is not one of them – not in my book. 

I am sick of how this sewer rot spoils the image of Americans, Caucasians, etc. I thought we had moved beyond this. Clearly, some insecure schmuck’s have not.

76 responses so far

76 Responses to ““Real Conservatives” Are A Lost Cause, How The Dems Can Succeed”

  1. The problem is that the other side has made their mudslinging work – it works very well when the other side does not return fire effectively.

    Unfortunately, the GOP seems to have no idea how to effectively fight back. Strategy is not wanted among some of the conservative base, and unfortunately, they seem to be driving the bus.

  2. Terrye says:

    There was no need for McCain to go after Wright. America had heard all that and apparently are so used to crazy preachers yammering that they decided it was no big deal.

    And Guy, I did not defend this, not at all. I am simply pointing out that there are plenty of Democrats who are racists, and they come in all colors.

  3. combat18 says:

    Hardly racist, just good clean parody and ridicule. Though the phrase was coined by a racist, Spike Lee, which he used to replace Uncle Tom. But then, he is a wannabe Bolshevik. While it was not a good idea to use this, I heard nothing about it when the LA Times used the phrase and when Rush was using the parody. Relax, take a chill pill.

  4. GuyFawkes says:

    Wow, Terrye, we’re agreeing on a couple of issues – I was just about to make the same exact point about McCain and Wright. Bringing it up didn’t help Hillary win the primary – why would it have helped McCain win the general?

    I am a bit curious about this prevalent attitude that only Dems like to “fling mud”. Could any of you provide examples of the “mud” that Obama flung around during the general election?

  5. Frogg says:

    Guy Fawkes,

    Obama ran a racist commercial in the southwestern states in Spanish against McCain. He took some of Rush Limbaugh’s words out of context and made some others up to make it sound like Limbaugh was saying Mexicans were dirty and stupid etc. and tried to plaster it on McCain. He said those people in Pennsylvania were “angry and clung to guns and religion because of that anger”. In talking about Palin he said you could put lipstick on a pig…it was still a pig. He gave a sly, but obvious, finger when referring to Hillary and again about Palin (or McCain??). He slung plenty of mud during the primary. I think Obama has held himself pretty well since the election–and, think it likely he will continue to act responsibly. Bush always held himself honorably.

  6. momdear1 says:

    OOH! We’re going to be politically correct are we? Not me. I’,m too old to buy into collective guilt thing. I call them as I see them and a little racist humor used to be acceptable and everyone laughed at it. Remember all those Polock jokes. My daddy was a hero during WWII. Went over in Jan. 1942 and came back on the first boat load returned home, and I learned at his knee that there are Krauts, Limeys, Frogs, Japs and A Rabs. And believe it or not, none of those nationalities ever took offense. they just laughed it off. So I take offense at people who don’t have enough humor to take a little ribbing. Politically correct, Al? Shame on you.

  7. Redteam says:

    Ohhh, look at all those racists in the Senate now saying they won’t seat the black guy that has been appointed to fill Obama’s place. It’s all because he’s black, there can be no other reason. They’re racists, all of them that oppose him. Please expose all their names if known.

  8. GuyFawkes says:


    I had forgotten about that Obama spanish ad. And after looking it up on, I’ll partially give you that one – it was misleading, but I fail to see how the ad itself was “racist”. Limbaugh really did say “let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work”.

    PA: I grew up in PA, and went to college in the middle of the state. My wife’s family is from upstate PA. I speak from personal experience when I tell you that Obama’s statements were 100% accurate – my brother-in-law is a rabid NRA member who was convinced Obama was going to take all of his guns away. (Right – that was really going to be a priority, with the global economic crisis going on.) Also, this is not a case of flinging mud at his Republican opponent – he was talking about voters themselves.

    “Lipstick on a pig” is a cliche – one that was used on at least four other occasions by McCain himself – including once when talking about Hillary Clinton’s 2008 health care plan. No one outside of Sean Hannity actually bought that.

    “The finger” was another complete hoax. Have you ever seen the picture of that exact pose, taken from the side? Where it’s obvious he was scratching his face with two fingers? Take a look here.

    So, out of four examples – one was misleading, but hardly “racist”; one was a comment about voters, not his opponent; and two were completely manufactured, false outrage from Fox News and its ilk. Sorry, not very convincing.

    Meanwhile, from the other side, you had “palling around with terrorists” and “comprehensive sex education for kindergardeners”, just off the top of my head. So, please – can we drop the “Repubs never play dirty, Dems never get out of the mud” meme here? You all lost that right pretty clearly back back in 2004 when you smeared actual Vietnam vets (who happened to be Democrats), while cheering on the two draft dodgers leading the White House.

  9. Frogg says:


    Well, you asked specifically about examples of Obama and I just rattled off things from the top of my head. There would be different perspectives from people on all of them. You didn’t ask for examples of Obama’s surrogates which were so awful that he often fired people openly for it…..then slyly hired them back after things quited down. What about the Obama ad making fun of McCain for not being able to use a computer because of the torture he received as a POW? But, McCain was no angel either. I think Romney was the most professional.

    The LImbaugh ad example was a direct Obama ad and the most obvious one that came to mind. Limbaugh was not only critical of McCain during most of the election. But, his remarks about “stupid Mexicans” was paraphrasing the Nafta opponents stand (and their implied put down of Mexicans), and his remarks about “shut your mouth and get out” was about Mexican immigration laws. Obama totally abused this in a “deceptive” and “racist” way. “Clinging to guns and religion” was an attack on voters. Mudsling millions of voters is ok with you? I would think that worse than attacking the candidate.

    “Palling around with terrorists”? May not have been a smart comment either. But, it was true (and, I’m not just talking about Ayers).

    “Sex Education for kindergartners”? I guess that is open to interpretation. I read it and found several portions of it sexually inappropriate for some of the proposed age groups.

    So, you give two examples that I don’t consider mudslinging.

    “Repubs never play dirty, Dems never get out of the mud”? Can you tell me when I ever said that? Surely you have me confused with someone else.

  10. Frogg says:

    Terrye, I didn’t have a problem with Meryl Haggert’s song “I’m an Oakie from Muskogee”. But, I don’t think it would be a smart thing for a politician to go to Oklahoma and say “how are all you Oakies doing?” That’s my point. The parody was about “liberals and democrats and how they spoke about Obama”. I don’t have a problem with it. But, it was stupid for any politician to even mention that song in any way.

    By the way, it is also my belief that there are stupid politicians in both parties; as well as stupid politicians of conservative, moderate, and liberal leanings. It isn’t about beliefs, convictions, or idealogies. It’s about how you present yourself and express those ideas.

    I’m hoping something good might come out of all parody stuff…..

    maybe it will strengthen Michael Steele’s run to lead the GOP.

  11. Frogg says:

    Saltsman puts out a statement

    Sorry, not good enough. He should have just explained the parody and said it was stupid to include it on a cd gift.

    Or, he could have just pulled an Obama — and claimed ignorance about the song and thrown it under the bus. 🙂

  12. Sue says:

    You all lost that right pretty clearly back back in 2004 when you smeared actual Vietnam vets (who happened to be Democrats),

    Seriously? You want to use that as a moral stand? The left smeared every Swifty that wasn’t supporting Kerry. And the list was a lot larger than the few Kerry drummed up. To this day, the left smears Vietnam veterans that actually stayed in Vietnam and didn’t run home with questionable medals the first chance they got. When the left says someone is being swiftboated, I immediately know the truth is being used against someone. The left has their own definition of swiftboating.

  13. Redteam says:

    why would you be offended to be called an Okie? I’m from Georgia and we are called crackers. now I’ve heard some say that’s a derogatory word, but I’m actually proud to be called a cracker, especially if it is a ‘Georgia cracker’. Too many people have their feelings spread all around them waiting for someone to step on them so they can be called a victim.

    I really, really don’t understand people being offended when they are called what they actually are. i.e.; caucasion, negro, mongolian, etc. I’m 5’11”, am I supposed to be offended if someone refers to me as a 5’11” guy? That’s what it amounts to.

  14. Frogg says:


    I am not offended by “Okie” or other such local terms. I am also not Politically Correct. I was responding to Terrye’s earlier post about such terms being highly offensive (giving the example of his father being offended when called an “Okie”). My point is, and always has been, that I have no problem with the parody; however, it was not a good political move to associate yourself with it.

  15. Guy are you an idiot or are you clairvoyant?

    Obama is not even in yet SO how do you know what he will do with gun control.

    Democrats love power and will do everything to remove the only tools that the second amendment stands for.

    After all your boy Obama said the Declaration is stained and the Constitution is flawed.

    Lets’ give him time to rule OK.

    Reading AJ’s anti Conservative crap has become boring.

    All of you forget the Brainwashed uneducated kids, the treasonous media and the people looking for Santa and a free ride.

    It no longer matters what the Republicans do.
    The numbers are not there and there is fraud enough to fix any state.

    All Civilizations collapse you are looking at the beginning of ours because we lack the brains and courage to use force to fix it.

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