Aug 12 2012

Take Your Pick: Tax Cuts For Rich Or Mountains Of Debt On Your Family?

Published by at 10:13 am under 2012 Elections,All General Discussions

If this election is going to be a decision for the middle class – as the Democrats claim – then let them stand on the Obama-Pelosi-Reid approach.

David Axelrod is out today claiming the Romeny/Ryan plan will ‘lavish tax cuts in the rich’.

But the alternative is mountains of generational debt on the backs of the middle class.

That’s the choice: Tax cuts for the rich (which doesn’t help or hurt me one way or the other) or mountains of national debt (which will dog me and my children and grandchildren for decades to come).

The rich can afford to pay more in taxes to cover the Obama-Pelosi-Reid deficits.  The rest of us can’t. The rich have established numerous tax loop holes the middle class does not have. If this is the choice promoted by Dems – then watch for a landslide in 2012.

I will let the rich have more if it means cutting back out of control government and reigning in the deficits.

Addendum: I think we have the making of a sucker punch here. It seems Wisconsin is becoming the national example for 2012. One of the things I see today with Ryan is the same arrogant stupidity on display from the left that hammered them in Wisconsin. The left was so sure their union muscle could turn aside any effort to cut off the funds to unions, they staged massive rallies and recalls – all to no avail. And in fact, they came away so crippled that the unions in Wisconsin are not only broke, but the Wisconsin school system went from bankrupt to slightly flush – so no sane parent will ever (and I mean EVER) go back to the union mandated ways.

The left lost so much in Wisconsin it would seem they should be smart enough to stand back and not repeat.

But they don’t run on smart, they run on emotion. Which means the more you push their buttons, the faster the implode.


15 responses so far

15 Responses to “Take Your Pick: Tax Cuts For Rich Or Mountains Of Debt On Your Family?”

  1. lurker9876 says:

    I cannot help but remember the polls on the WI recall election day for Scott Wawlker and Kathy where these polls showed that both will lose.

    Well, both won handily.

    which I predict will happen with Romney-Ryan.

    Remember Carter-Reagan polls?

  2. jan says:

    I’ve watched a few of the Sunday news shows this morning, and, as was expected, the dems and republican elites have put Ryan into a blender on high speed. To list the metaphors, predictions, policy castrations, aimed at Romney/Ryan, would be too painful. Needless to say, though, the left is delighted to have such a principled team of men to play with like a cat does with catnip.

    However, as I see it, this election is not only a fiscal tipping point for this country, it is also one measuring the backbone of the people who live here. If they fall for the shallow personal attacks and inuendos of the left, and frighted conventional elite, then we will be on a fast track to a European-like nation. However, if they can see through the gauze of distortion, fear and manipulation, I think we indeed have a chance of “turning this thing around,” to quote from Paul Ryans fine speech yesterday.

  3. Redteam says:

    The media and the lefties are in pain. They know that Romney likely chose the best person for the job and it almost surely spells doom for Obama because the Tea Party is going to bury the Dims. They are trying to portray it as a loser for Romney. They would have used the same ‘strategy’ no matter who the nominee, but this is the worst possible scenario for Obama. I do agree with jan that the shallow attacks and inuendos will work with many people that are not well informed or have no backbone. Let’s hope the Tea Party gets the message across.

  4. Layman says:

    Hey Everybody:

    Obama gave a really good speech today. Seriously! At least the first part was really good (before he got into lies and wishful thinking). I think the Romney campaign and all the PACs should take sound bites from it and make it the cornerstone of the campaign.

    Basically, he said that this election is not about two candidates or two political parties. It is about two highly polarized and opposite visions about the future of the country.

    I couldn’t agree more! Let’s see if the people want to have trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see; greater government intrusion and regulation of our lives and businesses; more governemnt interference into our lives; more dependence on government programs; etc.

    If the people vote Obama back in then we have our answer, and I retire to a beach shanty in Mexico.

  5. Redteam says:

    “If the people vote Obama back in then we have our answer, and I retire to a beach shanty in Mexico.”

    If you come back as an ‘illegal alien’ you will likely qualify for full retirement benefits..

  6. patrioticduo says:

    I think many people decided who they would vote for when Obamacare was foisted upon us. And those people are not figuring in polls because we are totally turned off by all of the media and political chicanery. It’s all just a lot of noise. But that doesn’t mean that we won’t be showing up on election day. Oh yes, we’ll be there alright. And I think the election this year is going to be its own November surprise.

  7. jan says:


    Your comment dovetails with my own ‘feeling’ that a swathe of voters are out there — I call them ‘the silent majority’ — who will be showing their disdain for the current government, big time, come November 7th. In the meantime, we are being entertained by polls reflecting either Obama support or a ‘close’ race. It drives me crazy, but I just have to rely on that gut feeling, saying there are more smart people out there than dumb, complacent ones.

  8. Redteam says:

    A rather strange article:

    “A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine armed with long-range cruise missiles operated undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks and its travel in strategic U.S. waters was only confirmed after it left the region, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.”

    So was it ‘undetected’ or not? Where would all these ‘details’ come from if ‘no one’ knew it was there. Surely if the object of the Russians was to do it undetected, they wouldn’t issue a statement revealing the details. Somehow, I suspect it was known all along it was there, just wasn’t announced until after it left so they could gather all the info they could. The US Navy knows how many subs the Russians have and where they are. There are no ‘secrets’ there.

    A little off subject, but interesting.

  9. Redteam says:

    Does this sound like a ‘racist’ statement? He was talking to a predominently black audience.

    Joe Biden on Romney Ticket: “They’re Gonna Put Y’all Back in Chains”

  10. jan says:


    If it had been a republican, “because of their history”, such a comment could be maybe construed as racist (at least that was the implication from Juan Williams this morning). But, being Biden is a dem, not to worry — it’s just Biden talking Biden language.

  11. oneal lane says:

    I really am unsure how this election is going and how it will go. There is so much conflicting information, polls etc. Its hard to know.

  12. Redteam says:

    yes, oneal, I’m not sure it’s a ‘done deal’ either. The media is rooting so hard and only printing info that is helpful to Obama to the point that we don’t have any idea what the true status is. the polls seem to always sample enough dimocrats to insure a close poll. It is comforting though that Ohio, Fla, and Wisc now seem to have moved to Romney.
    I don’t understand why the press is trying to portray ‘seniors’ as brainless obots that only believe the worst about Repubs and the best for the Dims. I’m certainly in the senior category and there is absolutely nothing in any of Obama’s politics that I support. He has to go.

  13. oneal lane says:


    If the RCP average is to be believed Obama is slightly ahead. After nearly 4 years of his bungeling the fact that he is not a solid 10 pints behind bothers me.


  14. Frogg1 says:

    Team Romney is taking the Medicare fight directly to the Democrats.

    Oh My: Romney busts out the white board on Medicare

    Romney’s white board was effective because it narrowed the arguement down to a few highlighted points. Also, Team Romney is going bold:

    … “Speaking of boldness on Medicare, Paul Ryan’s headed to Florida’s biggest retirement community this weekend to make the pitch. Also attending: His Medicare-using, Florida-residing septuagenarian mother. Awesome.”


    Democrats Starting To Realize They Might Lose The Medicare Argument?

  15. Layman says:

    OK, I hope AJ will appreciate this… how about a little basic math?

    $3.62 trillion budget.

    $1.20 trillion deficit.

    Tax increases on the rich $87.5 billion (per year, assuming the rich don’t change their behavior to keep more of their money).

    The tax increase to make the rich “pay their fair share” runs the government for about 9 days (8.8).

    The tax increase to make the rich “pay their fair share covers the deficit for about 27 days (26.6) or 7.3% of the year.

    365-27=338 days that we are still running a deficit. Some questions for President Obama and the Dems:

    OK. Soak the rich. It pays for 27 days of the budget deficit. What is your plan for the other 338 days of the year that we will be running a deficit? OK. Soak the rich. It pays for about 7.5% of the deficit. What is you plan for the other 92.5% of the deficit?

    Watch them gag on those basic numbers. Soaking the rich is not a “drop in the bucket” but it does nothing to address the underlying budget deficit issue. And don’t forget our very first basic assumption. It’s crap. The rich WILL change their behavior in order to find a way to keep more of their money so whatever the Dems expect to get – it will be a lot less.